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 205 GTI 1.9 VS 1.8 16v 19
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huwwatkins
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:23 am

Theres a guy in work who insists his 205 is faster than a 16v 19. Seeing as I dont really know im asking you guys Razz so which is it? Razz

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Chris H
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:27 am

hes right clearly, let him think that.

But the 1.6 and the 1.9 are not faster.

They are also way over rated, one magazine says they are ok and everyone creams their pants over them. The 309 is better Autocar and a few other mags agree. Then the spaz's say the 205 is amazing and best handlign etc etc

Its really not, way over rated.
JB
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:32 am

id say it prolly would..give it a go tho
schakal
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:55 am

it would be worth watching though. when is this race than huw ? is it also anywhere near cardiff ??????


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Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:57 am

my mate has a 1.9gti. i like it.

all thought there expensive!

i say 1.9 gti with the mi16 conversion wud beat it..
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:02 am

how are they expensive? They are dirt cheap these days, get them with T&T for about £400

if anyone sees a decent 309 GTI let me know. Black or tungsten grey though, nothing else.
schakal
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:03 am

a subaru impreza would beat it as well mate ,but would it also look as good as a valver ????? Question




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Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:06 pm

no i ment insurance..

groupe 15

clio 16v groupe 12

soz shud of mentioned that


clio faster?
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:57 pm

19's quicker then the clio.
JB
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 1:41 pm

nooo dont start this one please......for the sake of humanity

205 1.9 gti is grp 14 i believe
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:48 pm

hmm, you seem to be correct jonnyboy

ther was a groupe 16 1.9 gti as well..

but duno what was so speical about that..

what makes the 19 faster then the clio?
huwwatkins
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:42 pm

Aerodynamics.
JB
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:58 am

yes i believe the arguement goes along those lines....2 cars same engine power clio maybe lighter but 19 is lesser drag...or something like that.

not something i care deeply about
Chris H
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:07 am

better gearing and drag make the 19 ultimately faster.

Clio is quicker through town, on a motorway or country road 19's quicker. Longer wheel base and wider track helps high speed stability
Soneji
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:24 am

I'm still waiting on the figures from Renault regarding the 19, but it is known that drag coeiffient figures are marginally better on the 19.

But to be honest why should we be having to explain why the 19 is a superior car to the Clio? In almost every aspect the car is a better car to own.

This isn't RSC / CS remember folks
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:39 am

i better leave then Sad
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