Camshafts

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Sorry if this has already been asked but I have done a search and couldn't find anything. Just wanted to know if having the standard cams re-profiled is a good idea, or is it completely shit and a bit like using second hand toilet paper, and should just get new fresh cams? Or will I in-effect end up with exactly the same quality of product?

I'm only asking cuz while lookin for cams & stuff earlier, I found a place that wants Â£612 for brand new cams, followers, timing disc & cam lube......but they only want Â£347 if they re-profile your existing cams rather than giving you new ones. Seems like a bloody good saving if they're gonna be as good like.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

reprofiling cams means they are stuck with whats there.

The base circle etc is how its meant to be as is the duration and lift.

So to alter it on an existing cam they have to remove metal from the bas circle and also the ramp duration is shortened.

This basically means, more noise, more wear and hydraulic lifters have to take up more slack.

re-profiled cams do the job but you leave your cam in the hands of the grinder.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

plus 300 odd is feckin expensive....place near me does it for 160. thats all in, he sends em off to kent or is it piper, anyway..sends em off u get them back in a few days time.

in fact i am going to that very place this weekend, i have a spare set of cams, i cud even drop them off for you and you could send me the money!!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

I'll do it with a file for 50 quid.

Site Subscriber Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 2281

I'll do you a one-off camshaft using kitchen roll tubes and Cadbury's creme eggs if you like? Very Happy

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

JB, what place is near you that does cams? Is it a 'proper' place? Or just a guy you know like? I was looking for a place that does that sorta thing around the swansea area cuz that's the biggest city near me really. I live in the arse crack of nowhere lol. Also, is there anywhere in or near swansea with a rolling road that'll setup your car? Tried looking on www.yell.com, but I might aswell of had a wank. What a shit piece of a website.

But Chris has put me off a bit...

Chris H wrote:

This basically means, more noise, more wear and hydraulic lifters have to take up more slack.

I just want everything to be as best it can like. Probably why I spend most of my life moaning and being told "It's an 11 yr old frikkin car, do u really expect it to be perfect?!?". Doh

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Just been reading another post where JB was saying about people believing whatever they read on the the net and then going round and preaching it to others without knowing whether it's right or wrong......and that is such a good point! I am thick as 2 shits.......maybe 3.......and I believe what you guys say, so you'd better know what ur talkin about Laughing

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

aye but you say "i am probably wrong" , you dont pretend you know what u r on about Razz

the place is pucker...http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/

it is in bridgend, but like i said, all he does is sends them off for you. doesnt do them himself.

i have been running regrinds from him for ages now, mine is no noisier than it was before.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Well yeah, I am thick when it comes to cars really. Don't really understand properly how an engine works like, and am not gonna pretend that I do! Would just make me look like more of an idiot than I already am Laughing

So this guy, will he fit the cams & set it all up etc? I'm guessing the ECU will need some kinda re-programming?

So your re-grinds are obviously good and you'd recommend them to other people? What sorta power gains are you looking at for them?

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

no no no , he just sends em off for you and gives them back.

you wil have to fit them yourself. or find someone to do it for you Very Happy

regrinds are very mild so no ECU tweaking is necessary.

just regrinds, you will feel a difference, but not huge.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

most places end them to either piper or kent tbh.

contact them directly and see how much they want to re-grind the cams for.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Well I'm probably gonna end up paying more for the fitting than I will for having the cams re-profiled! Doh

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

JB will fit em

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

course i will... Very Happy

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

Oooh see now this it tempting *tries to resist* lol. Just wondering whether Â£200 odd quid or whatever is worth it for not much of a difference. Oh, and one of my posts wouldn't be complete without a daft question, so here it is....

Is that Â£160 for both the camshafts? Or is that Â£160 each? I am gonna take a guess at both, cuz that would just be silly otherwise

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

both yeah