sumps

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

will the alloy sump fit on a block that has a tin sump? (clio 16v) i need to get an alloy sump as the engine wont go in with the tin sump on as it catches the subframe and wont go in as the cutout on the bottom is different

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

yes it will fit straight on.

early 19 engine is it then!?!

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

well the engine is out of leanne's N reg so unless its just because the shape of the sump is different on a 19 to a clio or i cant tell my metals apart (quite likely)

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

hmm should be ally.

if its black its tin, if its shiny metal looking its ally.

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

its ally then, must be the wrong shape for a clio, tried to bastardise it with a panel beating hammer but inevitably it cracked so now i have to try and find someone with one asap! grrrrr!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

sumps should be the same.

whats it catching on?

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

subframe, it is a very slightly different shape (groove on the cam side isnt as deep) the part number is different too, just to check the jb3 on the 19 is the same as a clio isnt it?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the boxes casings are all the same, both run jb3's but different final drive rratios.

Is it the pokey down leg bit thats catching? you can chop that bit off.

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

no its actually cathing the subframe and pushing the box and down which making the diff sit on the steering rack! it is litlerally millimetres but its enough so that the engine wont line up properly on the mounts

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

get a pic?

plenty of people have slung in 19 engines without issue!

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

cant now mate, the sumps are back off and both of them are fucked now as it cracked during bastardisation processes.

basically i need a new sump anyway now so as soon as i've got that it should all go in

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

unless your subframes bent or its a ph3 subframe

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

v.true but if the engine came out it should go back in should it not?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

aye it should unless it catching on summat.

for the diff to catch on the rack it mush be pretty far back!

Site Subscriber Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3547

i think ive got a spare sump somewhere

Level 10 User Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Posts: 570

Rich1 wrote:

bastardisation processes.

LOL

Level 1 User Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 20

it was almost on but wouldnt quite go, the only difference's we could tell was the sump that and it was now marked up from subframe!
the gearbox and mounts are correct, the engine mount is correct one also manifolds are spot on only thing as said that didnt match was the sump!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

oh well clio sump hunt is on!

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

yep and we have since found out it is the sump that is shared by the williams which is on some valvers but guess what, not many share it! but infinicar to the rescue, Â£35+ vat and they have a part number off me to match it up to!

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

good price from paul tbh!

Level 7 User Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 224

aye a stack cheaper than a so called 'specialist renault breaker' who wanted Â£80! and nobody else sells them new except renault at Â£190 + vat! robbing twats