Tortion Bars?

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

Right then. My rear wheels have decided to start playing hide and seek with me. In the last couple of days they have moved about an inch and a half further up into the arches. What could it be? Tortion bars?

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the scary version? the bits of the shell that the rear beam mounts to have rusted to buggery and are deforming. Look under the plastic trim bits under the seats in the back Shocked

Otherwise, i dunno.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

Nope no rust on the car at all that I can see. Even the rear arches look pretty clear a little amount of surface rust but no bigger than a 1p coin.

I folded forward the rear bench and looked under the carpets but everything looks clean and tidy with nowt out of place. Is that where you meant?

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

under the plastic bits of trim to either side, above the mounting points for the beam.

Chris has pictures of what im on about, i dunno if theyre in the gallery or where they are though

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

I'll have time to have a proper look when i finish work. I doubt that it would be that though simply because I haven't found rust anywhere on the car apart from that surface rust on the rear of the rear arches which is small enough to be treated very easily concidering it's size.

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whats in the boot?

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

are you sure the wheels are going up ?????? there is gravity u see ,i thought the rear shocks might be buggered ,i would check them anyway Wink

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try the shocks, same thing happend to me when i had the 1.4, i changed them for brand new ones and it was fine after that, also think about what chris said, whats in the boot

Newbie Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 13

shocks dont affect ride height...

for example, my car sat without shocks for a week, didnt sit any different.

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

Yup, in fact we've been through the shocks/ride height discussion on here before...

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

shocks do affect ride height my good man neal ,in my case they were buggered to death and were not able to lift anything up.
the rear end was shaking like a polaroid picture even with 20mph

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i do insist

Newbie Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 13

shock ABSORBERS dont affect ride height. There's no question.

They are absorbers, they settle at whatever height the springs 'are at'.

Hence why you dont NEED uprated shocks when you're lowering your car. Also the reason you cant lower your car by changing shocks.

The spring affects ride height. The shock absorbers absorb shocks.

It may well depend on the suspension setup - although i doubt it.

if anyone is in any doubt, try taking your shocks off.

schakal, since when did shocks do any lifting? and its pretty obvious that dead shocks = poor poor ride, you're basically just running on springs.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

actually a shock absorber is the proper name for th espring device, i.e the spring or the torsion bar, the damper is the damper. A common missconception btw.

They CAN affect ride height, some have sprung rebounds so they lift the car a few mm.

But liek I said in the last argument they do not affect ride height, and if they do its because they are on the bump stops and removing them lets the car drop further.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

friction wrote:

shock ABSORBERS dont affect ride height. There's no question.

They are absorbers, they settle at whatever height the springs 'are at'.

Hence why you dont NEED uprated shocks when you're lowering your car. Also the reason you cant lower your car by changing shocks.

The spring affects ride height. The shock absorbers absorb shocks.

It may well depend on the suspension setup - although i doubt it.

if anyone is in any doubt, try taking your shocks off.

schakal, since when did shocks do any lifting? and its pretty obvious that dead shocks = poor poor ride, you're basically just running on springs.

i know what a shock absorber does matey
just to let you know though ,renault 19 s have torsion bars in the rears differing to your fiesta with rear springs Laughing

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As always Schakal, youre not making any sense. At all.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

it gives you a fecking chance than dont it ? Mad

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

A chance to berate you, yes.

Razz

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be a good plank now Exclamation

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

Fair do's this went a bit off topic while i wasn't around. To answer a couple of questions and clarify a bit the the tyres are about 1cm into the arches but they were about 2-3cm below the arches before I noticed the change.

Also nothing in the boot has changed, a sub, two amps, the jack and a spare underneath. I did take the wheels off on sunday and have a quick look. the left side seemed OK whereas the damper on the right was absolutely cream crackered. Managed to find a replacement damper on sunday! Shocked

and fitted it. Much better ride but the height is still off.

It occured to me that it only happened after I was driving back from Brighton with a full car. Got a bit bumpy probably fromthe damper being screwed. what could the problem be as I haven't really worked on the back end of the 19 yet I don't know what to look for really. Is it possible the tortion bars have managed to click down a notch?