Rally Clio

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http://media.putfile.com/LOMEJORDERAGNOTTIClio%2016vby%20HOMMYVLQ58

watch it.

Apparently I am wrong on this one caccording to f7power. But I woudl liek other opinions.

it seems I have offended the clio owning massive and somehow ragnotti by saying the cars not very good as a rally car.

Hint look at the cornering.

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The back end is way too sloppy. Might be set to hard, or just shite Laughing

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thats what I said, to low and apparently I'm the muppet.

And corners are meant to be taken in 2 stages and hes just showign off as well.

They took a right huff.

So I had a look for rally vids, saw gigi's site, linked to there.

Of course again I'm an idiot cos thats a half million pound wrc car, of course rally clios are on the street ain;t they.

then they tried arguing abotu diffs! lol

muppets

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what forum is this you speak of?

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f7power forum

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Oh dear Chris. You still haven't proved that a wrc evo isn't half a million quid, 4wd or fitted with tricky diffs as per every other WRC spec rally car.

Maybe you should be Ragnotti's advisor, cos clearly he had the wrong car all those years.

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I also don't believe we called you any names, just asked you to back up what you were saying. But hey, you didn't just have your usual tantrum did you, rather than explain your conclusions.

Seems I was right in my first assessment of you on F7Power and here. Knowledgable bloke on the oily bits but doesn't like to be disagreed with.

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exactly what does cost, drivetrain layout and excuse me what are tricky diffs got to do with anything?

So the clio doesn't haven't an LSD?

Erm yes it does.

Nova rally cars, saxo rally cars, in fact a billion fwd rally cars can all corner liek that.

Like I said that was the first set of vids I found and thats how rally cars shoudl corner.

i'll draw some diagrams for you clio owners.

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So a relatively simple LSD as opposed to modern WRC diffs doesn't make a big difference?

In that case why did the 90s spec WRC cars tend to drift more from the rear than current ones?

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ok your clearly to stupid to actually read aren;t you.

Since your clearly a fucking moron heres a simple diagram.

Be astounded by my photoshop skills!

black lines represent road.

red line represents and 4wd/2wd normal non clio owner/clio owners sucking up to good driver in shit car proper line

yellow line represents clio owners/shite clio rally cars line.

argument closed

Level 2 User Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 59

Closed? What about the diffs? You know, those dead simple ones the WRC cars have.

3 I believe they have, all electronically controlled by a computer that takes various readings from the car

"A relatively new technology is the electronically-controlled active differential. A computer uses inputs from multiple sensors, including yaw rate, steering angle, and lateral acceleration and adjusts the distribution of torque to compensate for undesirable handling behaviors like understeer. Active differentials are common in the World Rally Championship, though they may be eliminated in the coming years."

Show us a vid of these superb 2wd fwd cars then that can take the same lines as a Mitsi Evo WRC car, when the 90s spec WRC cars couldn't.

I'll ask again whether you've ever rallied?

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............. Laughing

hahahaha especially at the picture!

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what about the diffs?

And? they have been around for a long long time.

Leccy active diffs are not exactly new or cuttign edge either.

And fool you try finding any rally vids on the net.

hang on what did I say already? oh yes thats the onyl vids I could find at short notice?

but then again selective hearing also goes with being a clio owner Wanker!

what does me rallying have anything to do with this?

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Swervin_Mervin wrote:

Seems I was right in my first assessment of you on F7Power and here. Knowledgable bloke on the oily bits but doesn't like to be disagreed with.

The kids got a point!

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but since your intrested in my rallying heritage

my uncle Andrew Murdoch rallies a ford XR8 in austrailia now, he used to do it over here back int he day, he used to be pals with jimmy macrae, he doesn't do it much anymore but he still enters now and agains heres 2 links

number 32

http://www.toyotarallysa.com.au/results/2001%20Heat%202.pdf

this link only mentions his old car a ute in the 14th paragraph

http://www.rallysportmag.com/cms/A_20185/article.html

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Chris H wrote:

what about the diffs?

And? they have been around for a long long time.

Leccy active diffs are not exactly new or cuttign edge either. No? So explain to me why the 90s WRC cars didn't go round corners like your perfect example.

what does me rallying have anything to do with this? You seem to think you know more about it than the combined talents of Renaultsport and Ragnotti, maybe you should apply for a job with them? Obviously the guy we know in WC that has rallied his clio knows shit all since he picked the wrong car. That must be why he beat everyone bar a roll cage on wheels on his first outing in wales wearing Eagle F1s as opposed to eveyone else that was on proper motorsport tyres.

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exactyl what are you trying to say? your going round in circles! Are you gay? Do you like it up the bum? you keep going back like you do, ae you thinkign abotu it now?

i commented on THAT VID no other vid. I COMMENTED on that CAR in THAT vid and how it was SHITE.

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Personally I've always found this picture very ammusing, disturbingly so...

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yeah but the arguings funny!