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 r 19 -60mm????
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RY_LACEY
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:20 am

hi all was just wondering if any off you have lowered your renault 19s on 17"s it was thinking of going for 60 mm spring but wondered if the car would scrub. please help

cheers ryan
Neal
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:00 pm

why would you do such a thing?

looks are subjective, but it would handle like shite.
RY_LACEY
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:04 pm

yer maybe not ive been look at benskett's lowered 40mm at that looks better
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:33 pm

drop the front on coilovers and drop the back to the floor on 15 inch rims look better than 17's i reakon
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:42 pm

and become a nonce.. Rolling Eyes
touring_19_16v
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:33 am

just leave the stock suspension and stick 17s on if it starts to roll a bit then lower it a max of 25-30mm but be warned theres not much space for 17s
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:30 am

there is room for 17's had the valver on the bumpstops on the rear and 40mm on the front with 17's and no scrubbing,

15's are better the tyres are cheaper they handle alot better but peronal choice at the end of the day dif folks dif strokes an all
Addie
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:46 am

bbracer16valver wrote:
drop the front on coilovers and drop the back to the floor on 15 inch rims look better than 17's i reakon


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Like so.

Goodbye handling!
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:23 pm

*pukes*
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:30 pm

AddieLike so.

Goodbye handling!

handling doesnt go it improves

but different folks different strokes the 1st one is decent the 2nd looks dodgy because of the ramp from the pavement to the gates[/quote]
Neal
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:33 pm

bbracer, handling does not automatically improve if you lower the car. On a smooth racetrack maybe (if the suspension is set up properly for that ride height), on the road, usually not!
Addie
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:53 pm

If you've ever driven a seriously low car you'll know just how un-fun they are on normal everyday roads.

Racetrack, maybe. UK's roads? No way.
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:54 pm

i never said it was the ideal set up otherwise i wouldnt of droped it 40mm on the front and dropped the rear abit not a lot

just saying dropped to the floor looks good

and ive drove a chammy ph1 dropped to the floor and on the bump stops it bounced front to back like a see saw but my god did it handle like fuck good amount of over steer aswell


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Addie
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:55 pm

bbracer16valver wrote:

just saying dropped to the floor looks good


bbracer16valver wrote:

handling doesnt go it improves
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:55 pm

no, it dont! Rolling Eyes

someone else tell him
Neal
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:57 pm

And thats where it's subjective.

You say it looks good

I say it looks shite.

Neither of us is right or wrong on that.

However, the performance aspect is not subjective, when you lower a car excessively, you destroy the handling.
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:57 pm

each to there own boys each to there own
Neal
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:01 pm

Yep exactly, but you'll be agreeing with me when you've got a hole in your sump Wink Razz
Addie
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:02 pm

bbracer16valver wrote:

and ive drove a chammy ph1 dropped to the floor and on the bump stops it bounced front to back like a see saw but my god did it handle like fuck good amount of over steer aswell


Maybe so, but zero suspension travel is going to make for some interesting handling when your car lifts off over the smallest bumps in the road or falls down pot holes.

Also makes for some interesting braking when the nose can't dip down to add force on the front tyres.
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:03 pm

gota spare Razz

any way i said it aint on the floor just improved OEM shite









Rolling Eyes shoot me for begin different ppl
Addie
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:06 pm

bbracer16valver wrote:


any way i said it aint on the floor just improved OEM shite


bbracer16valver wrote:

and ive drove a chammy ph1 dropped to the floor and on the bump stops it bounced front to back like a see saw but my god did it handle like fuck
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