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Xvisor
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Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:14 pm |
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Well next wednesday or thursday i'm gonna change a tappet cause it's continuously ticking and hard to, i already checked them and there is one i can push down easily with my finger so i guess that's the buggered one. I've got some spare tappets here to use.
1. What i want to know now is can i just put the tappet in or do i have to fill it up or something? (or will it fill itself) (noob question i guess)
2. Can i put the cam i'm taking of back on without using a gasket? cause i think there ain't one know so i guess that ain't needed??
3. Last but not least the thingy that keeps the cam in place does that need to be bolted on with a specific momentum or can i just fasten those bolts by hand?
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Dan
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:54 am |
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1: ideally blead them with oil 1st, so turn them upside down in a pot of oil and pushthe lifter in and out.
2: rocker cover gasket!
3: they have to be torqued down, the outer ones are 24nm, the inner bolts are 10nm. |
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Chris H
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:40 am |
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2. the cam carrier is sealed to the head using hylomar or similar. |
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Xvisor
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:48 am |
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| Dan";p="93322 wrote: |
1: ideally blead them with oil 1st, so turn them upside down in a pot of oil and pushthe lifter in and out.
2: rocker cover gasket!
3: they have to be torqued down, the outer ones are 24nm, the inner bolts are 10nm. |
what do you mean with inner or outer ones are you talking about the rocker cover or the cam carrier??
| Chris H";p="93328 wrote: |
| 2. the cam carrier is sealed to the head using hylomar or similar. |
hmmm it seamed there was nothing in between is that some kind of transparent stuff?? |
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Wicked Neo
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:21 am |
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there are 16 bolts holding the rocker cover on, the outer 8 are at 24nm and the inner 8 are at 10nm |
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Xvisor
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:53 pm |
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| Wicked Neo";p="93350 wrote: |
| there are 16 bolts holding the rocker cover on, the outer 8 are at 24nm and the inner 8 are at 10nm |
Hmm well i always did those by hand no problems a well but that wasn't what i wanted to know what i did wanna know was if i had to use a specific torque on the bolts that bolt the carrier on the head!?? |
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Dan
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:40 pm |
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no the cam carrier bolts is what i was saying. |
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bidderman1969
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:59 pm |
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i'm keeping watch on this, as i might be removing cams/tappets/other things............... |
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Xvisor
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Mon May 01, 2006 11:08 am |
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| Dan";p="93360 wrote: |
| no the cam carrier bolts is what i was saying. |
Oke thnx dan and should i put something in between carrier and head or just put it up again? on both my head it seams there was nothing in between but then again i ain't an expert (more to say far from  )
That hylomar stuff is that the same as fluid gasket or something is or that some special stuff (probably again a stupid question)
And is there a special way the do the bolts for the carrier i know i have to loosen them a milimeter at a time but do i need to do the same when fastening them up?
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Got some pictures of the other engine in the garage that im stripping and preparing to exchange the one on the car at the moment... coming summer (im not that fast but i really need the car driving atm so that's why the old engine has to be fixed for the time being)
http://prive.etict.nl/blok |
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JB
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Mon May 01, 2006 11:25 am |
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dont worry about the order of undoing them too much. just be sensible and try and slacken them all off evenly.
use Hylomar or RTV between the carrier and head...
use torque settings for the carrier to head but for the rocker just pinch them up hand tight, but be careful not to overdo it, they strip easy. |
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bidderman1969
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Mon May 01, 2006 4:29 pm |
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omg, im worried now, what engine is that???? looks different to my 16valver..... |
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Chet T16
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Mon May 01, 2006 4:35 pm |
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Xvisor
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Mon May 01, 2006 4:38 pm |
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| Its definately an F7! |
All the way F7P-704 |
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JB
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Fri May 05, 2006 12:49 am |
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how does yours look different bidder? |
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Chris H
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Fri May 05, 2006 12:50 am |
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it'll be funny if its an energy engine in it won't it! lol |
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JB
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Fri May 05, 2006 12:52 am |
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bidderman1969
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Fri May 05, 2006 4:23 am |
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its the fastest energy engine i've ever known. F7P ie |
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Xvisor
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Tue May 16, 2006 9:51 am |
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Well all worked out perfect in the end! I had 32 tappets to start with. After cleaning and refilling I tested 13 to be perfect and 10 to be completely dead. The rest was so so, so i used the 13 good ones and the best 3 of the others and it's running very smooth now! I did forget to order cam oil seals so i had to order them and wait for those to get in, damn renault asks 11 pounds for them a piece  |
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bidderman1969
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Wed May 17, 2006 2:40 am |
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JB
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Tue May 23, 2006 5:50 am |
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10 dead tappets? thats very unlucky! How are they dead? |
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Xvisor
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Tue May 23, 2006 3:44 pm |
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| JB";p="95797 wrote: |
| 10 dead tappets? thats very unlucky! How are they dead? |
Depending.... from pressing and not coming back at all to pressing them and coming back to slowly or have more then 2mm free play |
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