285mm brakes

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

lol. with the the discs are they expensive to renew and are they k-tec only. or have you not got to that stage yet lol.

when you could be better do you just mena performance wise. are the an improvment over the standard set up

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 192

its much easier to lock up. i have had to replace the discs because my wheel came off Embarassed

discs from ktec are Â£130

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

fooking hell 130 squid.

ok thats cool thanks for the info.

dont suppose you know if they would sell separate parts out of there kit like the spacers do you

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 192

wouldnt know. no harm in asking tho. theyre very helpfull if you ring them

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

cool sounds good. will give it a try thanks for the info

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Naples_16v";p="98254 wrote:

what about the 1.4 vented discs ?

aka gtt/rsi brakes!

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

When I was doing the 21Turbo/TXi conversion I asked K-tec if they would sell the carriers seperately so I could use the 16v calipers but they just said "no" :p

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

well i dont need the carriers just the spacer plate, so i either need to borrow some one elses dimentions and get it mde or measure it up my self

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 192

if your using stadard 16v carriers , you wil have to get your own made as the ktec one caters for a smaller carrier

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naples what are you talking about?

You make daft statement and back them up with nothing.

Theres 3 girling/lucas carriers in total fitted to cars of this era

238 12mm solid disc.
238 22mm vented
259 22mm vented

thats it, the narrower one will not accept a disc wider than about 14mm as it will be binding.

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Dec 2005 Posts: 192

well, i bought a 2nd hand big disc kit , and tried to use the 16 v carriers but the pad was only half on the disc , hence why you couldnt just use a ktec spacer with 16v calipers and 21 TXi discs .

so i would say they are using ktec use a 238 mm 22mm carrier for those discs, i cant see them making there own tbh

sorry if i seem a bit random but heads in mess atm, (woman Rolling Eyes

)lol

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

the original disc on the car are 259mm.

so does this mean tht if i wanted to can i use the 21 txi discs , my 16v calipers and then make a spacer plate up.

was starting to get a bit confused lol

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

Yeah iirc the TXi discs are 21.5mm in width. You will need the bracket to accomodate for the extra height the bigger disc will create.

The setup is awsome but i used the 21turbo calipers which i'm sure are much bigger than the 16v - can anyone confirm that? I'm not sure you will see improved braking with the 16v calipers on the bigger disc as the stopping contact area wouldn't change.

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

Leverage!

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

pistons are bigger on the 21T calipers, and the pads have a chunk more area as well.

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

the braking effort will be bigger with bigger disc so they should be better for the reason chet siad.

by the sounds of thing 21 turbo calipers would be better to use than the 16v ones. but the likelyhood of me finding any is very low unless any one knows of any one breaking a 21turbo. if using the 21t calipers would i need the carriers as well?

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

yes, you use the 21T carriers.

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Also, you can get refurb calipers without giving in exchange ones, it just costs more

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

where can i get exchange 21turbo caliper from, dont suppose you know how much?

presumably i will then have to get the carriers separately. do the 21t carriers bolt on to the 16v hubs. probably not cos that would b to easy lol.

so if i manage to get hold of 21t calipers, 21t carriers, txi discs, do i still have to make up a spacer. (think i do?) that should work a treat

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

Yes, of course you need the spacer to fit the 21T carrier to the 16v hub, what do you think itâ€™s for?

www.biggred.co.uk do callipers. Price for a pair exchange Â£72 exchange including vat, the returnable surcharge is Â£20 per pair. Postage Â£8.90 per pair.

Level 8 User Joined: 30 Jan 2006 Posts: 270

having a blonde moment lol. 72 quid sound pretty resonable tbh. even the postage is cheap i like.

cheers from that neal good info. just need to get the bits and do the job.

how much do you think it will cost to get two spacers made spacer made up.