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 Clio 197
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valver
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:45 pm

of u had a 450 bhp rs500 then why do you have a 19 16v now.a real rs500 can go for 10 grand plus
FincH
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:45 pm

Hey, I see no R19 197. Bwhahaha.

But yes, it is a bit heavy on paper, yet the car as a whole is bigger so it's to be expected.

Be interesting to see if they release a 'Cup' version closer to 1000Kg.

Wonder how tuneable the 197Bhp engine is?

Nice power from a 2.0 16v tbh. Inlet looks similair to the F7P/R's
valver
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:48 pm

FincH";p="100078 wrote:
Hey, I see no R19 197. Bwhahaha.

But yes, it is a bit heavy on paper, yet the car as a whole is bigger so it's to be expected.

Be interesting to see if they release a 'Cup' version closer to 1000Kg.

Wonder how tuneable the 197Bhp engine is?

Nice power from a 2.0 16v tbh. Inlet looks similair to the F7P/R's


i think renault should turbo charge the clio,they did it with the 5s etc,it would be more tuneable and probably get more interest in people buying it


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Chris H
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:48 pm

10 grand for a shitter mate, i was part owner, I built the engine etc and car was half mine but mates change especially when they are shipped to germany and take the fucking car!

besides the rs500 was a pain in the arse with the power, arse just spun up to easily and at silly speeds as well, nothing like hitting the limiter because of wheel spin at 110!
valver
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:50 pm

Laughing
Chris H";p="100080 wrote:
10 grand for a shitter mate, i was part owner, I built the engine etc and car was half mine but mates change especially when they are shipped to germany and take the fucking car!

besides the rs500 was a pain in the arse with the power, arse just spun up to easily and at silly speeds as well, nothing like hitting the limiter because of wheel spin at 110!


well as they say the 4wd are for the pu**ies
Chris H
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:52 pm

4wd is good for getting the thing to m,ove quickly. It was terrible in the wet.

cossies are mostly buggered now, decent ones go for silly money, can tget a smoker (one that really does smopke lol) for under a grand if you search around. But needs 10 grand thrown at it to sort it out
FincH
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:56 pm

valver";p="100079 wrote:


i think renault should turbo charge the clio,they did it with the 5s etc,it would be more tuneable and probably get more interest in people buying it


Hmm, would be nice to see but can't see it happening. Insurance would be huge. Would probably be too powerful and also I doubt it'd get a 5Star NCAP rating lol.

Would be nice to see a Williams style limited run perhaps.
valver
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:57 pm

your right about the loss of control on the 2wd in the wet but the 19 is the same.tbh that cossie i am talknig about was crashed 3 times at a round about since my bro in law had it the 3rd time wrote off so your probably right again chris better of being a pu**y and going with the 4wd (especially if your willing to spend mega money on it)
valver
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:59 pm

FincH";p="100083 wrote:
valver";p="100079 wrote:


i think renault should turbo charge the clio,they did it with the 5s etc,it would be more tuneable and probably get more interest in people buying it


Hmm, would be nice to see but can't see it happening. Insurance would be huge. Would probably be too powerful and also I doubt it'd get a 5Star NCAP rating lol.

Would be nice to see a Williams style limited run perhaps.


who cares about ncap,the 182 wasnt 5 star
FincH
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:16 pm

valver";p="100085 wrote:
FincH";p="100083 wrote:
valver";p="100079 wrote:


i think renault should turbo charge the clio,they did it with the 5s etc,it would be more tuneable and probably get more interest in people buying it


Hmm, would be nice to see but can't see it happening. Insurance would be huge. Would probably be too powerful and also I doubt it'd get a 5Star NCAP rating lol.

Would be nice to see a Williams style limited run perhaps.


who cares about ncap,the 182 wasnt 5 star


I see you missed the lol bit.

And anyway, I just cannot see it happening. A Clio 2.0 16v Turbo that is. Not this day in age. And not from Renaults best selling hatch.
Chet T16
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:27 am

The lancia weighs over 1400kg Laughing

Still manages 60 in 5.5 tho!
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:31 am

yeah but its 4wd and decent power and torque.

weighs a lot for a paper bag though dinnit?
Chet T16
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:41 am

Body is made from recycled paper but the engine/gearbox/diffs etc are made from cast iron Very Happy
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:03 am

you still have thus i still can break it! lol

you sorted the gear linkage yet?

intersting fact peeps I wasn't allowed in the lancia due to me either causing it to rust instantly or break it.
Chet T16
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:18 am

I'm thinking i might wait and get a shortshift from it. THey came standard on one of the special additions
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:22 am

just poke the floor and it will fall out then change gear directly on the linkage, no stick, super short shift
Colm
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:12 am

I got a lift in the Lancia and all I can say is...... Razz Shocked Surprised
mals
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Joined: 04 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:49 pm

Talking Cozzies,

There is a place near Neo me (and Neo) called "Days of Glory", (opposite Westliegh school if you want to look Neo!) specializing in hot hatches etc mk2 XR2's, Porky 928, it has 2 original E plate 3 door cozzies ,one white £23,000 and one black £26,000, is the world going mad? I'd love an original RS500 and they are in good nick, but at that price?
david3533
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:21 am

tis a shame 197 bhp and the performance is not much better than any other car but I guess that is the price we pay for safety. After all I would not like to be driving the 5 about without a cage in her everything is so flimsey at least a clio (mk1) was a lot more solid than the 5 and I guess the same can be said for a 19 in comparisson with the 9 or 11 and so it is with the new clio to the old etc etc its called progress. the thing that always gets me though and I do struggle with this is how manufacturers (sp) keep telling us that this new model chassis is so many % torsional stiffer than the old model etc etc maybe somebody could explain this to me, by my reconning a car made in the 80's must be made of paper as if you add up the % gains in strength the latest clio is about 80% stiffer than the 5 I do hope thats not a logarithmic scale as I would be really worried Very Happy Laughing
Chris H
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:02 am

everything is improved over the old cars, they have to say it to sell them!

They can't say, chassis is the same, a bit heavier due to the flabby bodywork, not as good as ther old one but alright, buy it please.
david3533
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:08 am

Laughing no your right there
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