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 Clio 2.0 F7R 710
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MicKPM
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:54 am

Well if it's the physical mount he's after we've got one in the garage left over from the Megane if it's anygood to him!
JB
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:14 am

which mount u on about? the megane has the same style side mount doesnt it? thats the one he is proposing remaking, not because he hasnt got one but wants a custom one that he can access trhe cam thru without havin to remove it...
MicKPM
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 4:23 am

That's the one JB but we were talking about the possibility of using the 19 16v mounts as that would potentially allow him to do away with the side mount all together thus allowing him full access to the Verniers. The only problem is that (As Chris pointed out) he'd have to use all the 19 mounts to avoid the engine being at differing angles/levels.
JB
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 5:10 am

yes thats why im asking what use is the meg mount to him if it is a side mounting one...?
stan
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 2:58 pm

lol!

anyway....

yeah i agree, both front bottom 19 mounts would be needed. bastard is ive just pulled the F7P out of my spare clio, so i cant do an "in-situ" gander! already established the 19 mount bracket that goes behind the PAS mount canr be used, so it would mean making a 'flat' one.

Chris, like JB says, its a hassle having to remove the sidemount/pulley cover every time i want to adjust the cam timing. thats why i was wanting to make an 'open' one.

curiously, there is a slot in the clio subframe, kinda where the 19 mount would go...fecking Renaults!
Chris H
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 12:16 am

get your hands on a gtt mount Craig as its taller and should work better than a 19's.

Also you will need a 19's P/S bracket.

Either that or cable tie it to the subframe, always works Razz
stan
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:26 am

If i use the 19 PAS bracket, will that not make the engine too bulky at the front i.e. it might not fit? i thought thats why they re-designed it for the clio...

wots the GTT mount like? how do u mean taller? just trying to picture it...!

my plan at the mo is to use JB's spare mount and its bracket for dimmensions to make a 'flat' bracket so i can retain the clio PAS mounting. obviously this will require some attention to re-strengthening, as on the OE the pressed in folds give it strength
Chris H
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:36 am

the 19 mount is v shaped. The gtt is a big rubber block bugger its taller.
stan
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:39 am

Chris, will the engine fit in the bay with a 19 PAS set-up do u know?
Chris H
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:34 am

dunno but if it doesn't then a suitable hammer will make it fit.

you need to use the 19's alt belt set up.
stan
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:40 am

Well, its finally in and running! has been for the last few days, but i had a minor problem in that the diff was fucked in the meggy box! bastard! i was right pissed off! Fitted the original 1.8 one for now. Im just glad it runs...heres a few pics of the transplant:


http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0844.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0846.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0849.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0851.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0852.JPG


This one shows my specially made NW-Racing rear mount (cheers Nealio!):

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0856.JPG


Heres a few of it in and fully fitted. note the megane coil-on-plug effort wouldnt accept my HT leads. never mind, looks more aggressive imo. As can be seen i fabricated my own side mount for the purpose of easy cam timing adjustment. A cover needs to be made to prevent stones/debris entering...will be adressed asap.

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0861.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0862.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0863.JPG

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs32&d=05234&f=DCP_0864.JPG


So wots left to do?...well, im right in the middle of sorting the map out, so that i have a 2.0 base map instead of the 1.8 job. then i can start the full detailing of the fuelling and ignition maps, and adjustment of cam timing. THEN a power run on the chassis dyno! cant wait!

There you have it...the ONLY Clio with a 2.0 Megane F7R, fully operational, running OE user programmable managment.
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:51 am

hmm..

this shall be a beast

have anywyay to take vids of the beast onces its run in?

so stan is back into the "elite retro-clio sector" of retro-renault
Neal
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:53 am

Very Happy

super duper splendid mate!

Love it!
stan
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:02 am

Ive always been in the elite Roger! just away for a month!

cheers Neal!
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:14 am

hence me saying welcome back :p


beast i tell thee beast!

you taking it to the scottish meet, if your going?
schakal
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:54 am

well done stan

did you drive it yet ?
stan
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:05 am

briefly..but its still on 1.8 mapping. need to finnish running in aswell. was meant to be going up to Carlisle yesterday, but change of plan has ruled that out.
will hopefully get map sorted this week
JB
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:34 am

looks a lot easy with that removeable slam panel Razz

ive had a little run in this motor....and even on the 1.8 map, far from ideal, you can feel this is goin to be impressive.
Gentle Ben
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 1:44 pm

Didn't quite look at all the piccys, but impressive to say the least.

What made you go for the 710 over the 700 then Stan? Seems like you've sunk a lot of time and effort into it, glad to see it's paying off for you fella!
stan
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:13 am

710 has the megane head=better torque (smaller ports, high vels, parrallel entrance etc etc). also makes it better suited to larger valves. and i couldnt have bought a willy lump for 150 beans!!
Gentle Ben
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:00 am

Fuck me that was cheap then!
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