Car tax rules?

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

Right, the guy i've bought the red chammy off reckons that you' get 24 hours after you've bought the car to tax it? Now personally im thinking thats a load of bollocks, anyone know any different?

Cheers

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

Bollocks

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

its bollocks, my other one sat around with no tax for ages til i got round to SORNing it.

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

So basically it has to be taxed..as I thought.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

it has to be taxed unless you want to declare sorn my friend ,whats the problem ,i dont get it Question

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

if it's off the road, declare it SORN.

if it's parked on the public highway it has to be road legal, MOTed, Taxed and Insured.

DVLA has a new (ish) computer system up and running.
Basicly if you dont have your car taxed or declared SORN then it sends you out a Â£80 fine and is liable to be removed from the public highway, taken to a pound where you will then need to pay release and storage fees (typicaly Â£150+) to get it back, you also get a fine as well, nice huh!

Remember it's up to the previous owner to send off the V5, that owner is liable for the car, parking tickets etc whilst the V5 is in thier name.

When the previous owner sends off the V5, you will get it about 2 - 3 weeks later and road tax form thru the post as well (knowing DVLA you will prolly get that form before the V5)
Remember when you tax a car you need to produce the V5 in your name with your address, you can however get your road tax at the post office by filling in a V5 form at the same time and then the PO sends it off for you.

So if its insured and MOTed, u can pop down the PO, fill in the V5 request form at the counter, show the cover note or insurance cert, the MOT cert, pays your money and get her taxed.

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

The problem is, i''ve bought the car off a dealer in selby, york, im 99% sure it has no tax, so presumably is sornd. Adde as kindly agree to pick the car up for me and keep at his house till I can get up there to get it. Problem is getting it from the dealer to addies house...

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

the only way to drive a car witout tax and mot is to drive it to a prebooked mot test , i dont %100 know what happens when police stops you in that situation but i booked an mot test which i never attended ,called the ins company to swao the ins on the chammy the day before i moved the car and drove it from pontypool to barry(30-35miles) .never been stopped .

if you are gonna do it ,do it on a saturday or sunday morning .no cops around that time .

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

ITs not the police thats the problem, from what I hear, its the dvla out with their roadside camera sites..

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

my tax disc fell off the windscreen ages ago...and i mean sometime last year. no problems as yet, dont reckon theyre very common these tax disc detector things

Gay Rights Activist Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 1268

believe it or not, and i know this is the stupidist thing you are likely to hear in a while, but:

if a car is declared SORN, it CAN be parked on the road!

this is fact as told to me by a police officer and a DVLA enforcment officer when my car got clamped for no tax

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

righty ladies, I beleive I knwo a wee bit about this area, so does George hes got nearly a grand in fines as a result for his clio!

To drive an untaxed/unmot'd car legally it has to be going to a from a pre-booked MOT test.

If the police stop you then they will check with the garage to see if its true. So make sure you give tyhe garage your name and reg number. If you don;'t attend this pre-booked mot then the garage won;t be happy and the police may check in and they will say you never attended which is lkying to a police officer. Frankly if you booked it and didn't attend then you deserve a kicking and in my book your a timewasting tosser. I hate arseholes that fuck you about.

Roadside vans, yes theres many about. They get a snap of the VRN and depending on factors a mugshot of the driver/passenger. The number is then processed and a VRN without a valid tax disc will be sent a fine.

Now if like George you get snapped by 3 different vans on the same journey you have to pay all the fines, even though its a single trip and not 3 seperate ones. If you don't pay you will be summoned to court where you have to produce insurance, mot and so on.

If your tax disc has fallen off etc then the DVLA will not bother, the police however will slap a Â£60 fine on the screen for failing to display. You will then get a letter later in the week in formal writing about the offence. Its a civil offence not criminal btw.

If a vehicle is parked on the public highway like Neo said it needs tax, mot and insurance.

If its sorned then it can be ont he road but it needs 3rd party liability insurance.

SORN is not transferable either, so if its sorn then the keeper changes you need to apply for sorn again.

To avoid the tax cameras, they are normally parked on motorway bridges etc to scan the motorway, and in bus stops and laybys etc.

To avoid being done, you need to see the van first, if you see it sit about 1 inch from the car in front, they cannot get a pic of the number plate that way and there is no frontal camera on the van. I cannot condone this as its breakign the highway code after all...

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

when i got the hatch i sent off the sorn form...should i have received some sort of reply...i have heard nothing...but also i have had no fine either...

also on a sligfhtly relevenat note...to tow a car it mus also be T&T and ins.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

Chris H wrote:

Frankly if you booked it and didn't attend then you deserve a kicking and in my book your a timewasting tosser. I hate arseholes that fuck you about.

i hope you are not referring to me here ??
i am quite brave enough to call and cancel a test i booked if i wont attend .

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:13 am

Question,

What happens if the car passes/fails the MOT then, what are the rules for getting it home?

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

you can get it home as long as you are coming back from a prebooked mot test

Site Subscriber Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 350

don't dealers have TAX plates they can put on cars they sell? my mate bought a Pug 206 from carcraft with no tax, and they just put on their company's tax number plate. im sure there is a technical name for it but im not sure what it is

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:02 am

trade plates

Site Subscriber Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 350

thats the one! cheers mals. would they not be able to be of use in this situation?

Site Subscriber Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 350

Jonnyboy wrote:

when i got the hatch i sent off the sorn form...should i have received some sort of reply...i have heard nothing...but also i have had no fine either...

also on a sligfhtly relevenat note...to tow a car it mus also be T&T and ins.

declared my old 19 SORN last year (around July/August). got a letter through the post last month saying it is now SORN Rolling Eyes

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

lol cool...