Exhausting!!

Level 1 User Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 38

right maybe im looking in the wrong places but i cant find anyone who makes exhaust systems for my 19! - mine has holes all over it so cant be repaired!

also do i need a CAT? it was first registered on 01/03/1992 its got the F7P 704 engine which i understand has no means of adjusting CO2 content.

thanks Smile

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1108

www.motorsportworld.co.uk have got systems for the 19. I bought a mongoose one off 'em a while back. Was lookin for a Magnex one but they have been discontinued and nobody has got 'em anymore. Well, not that I've found anyway. But yeah the mongoose one shouldn't be hard to get hold of. Plenty of new ones on ebay actually.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

you don't need the cat.

Level 7 User Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 182

Thought he did need a cat at that date?

Site Subscriber Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 591

doesnt matter aslong as it passes the emissions test come mot time.

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

yeah but without a cat it wont pass the post '93 test, no chance.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

cat test is 31/8/92, before that any 16V shoudl pass it unless its firing on 3 and even then theres a chance of a pass!

Level 6 User Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 149

as far as i know, the F7P 704 IS the catted version of the 19 F7P engine.. its the 700 that doesn't have a cat..

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

yes and your point is?

Level 6 User Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 149

hmm... well, maybe its different in the uk, but in denmark, if a car has been type approved with a cat, it's not legal to remove it and it will never pass MOT, etc. without it....

if a car comes with and without, like the 19, i actually don't know how they distinguish between them, ie if its only the first registration date (like its suggested here) or what.. im pretty sure they dont check the engine number.. is it possible to figure out the engine type (700/704) from the VIN?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

you only need to meet the emmisions requirements for the age of the car, which means anythign before 31st of august will pass an mot cat or not realy.

Level 6 User Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 149

do you know if the emmisions levels are specified by renault? because then i would think the critical date is the same in all countries.. mine was first reg'ed july 1st 1992..

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the 16V outputs 1.5%CO

HC's are around 150ppm

thats a stock healthy engine according to renault.

The test pre 31st aug 92 here is under 3.5 % CO and under 1200 HCs ppm

cat test is under 0.5% CO and under 200 HC's ppm

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

as for cat test output from renault I don;t know. the cat is an after through, its merely there to serve its function seperatly from the engine.

CATS are not the way to reduce emmisions properly but they do the job effectively.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

i think my p1 is just after that date Sad

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

if it is then it will be on a k plate which it isn't.

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

Vehicle details
Manufacturer RENAULT
Model 19 16V
Body type 3 DOOR HATCHBACK
Colour GREY
Fuel type PETROL
Date manufactured 30 December 1992
Number of previous owners 4
Last owner change 01 January 0001

that RAC vehicle checker thingy says that, thats why i worry.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

rac is wrong, it said one of my ph1's was made in 95 or something

you got a link to that data checker thing, I wanna check the exec

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

http://www.rac.co.uk/web/carbuying/vehicle_data_search/

here u go

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

According to that my hatch was made 31/12/91 and my chamade was made 31/12/93

I've had my chamade almost exactly a year now Smile

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

where is the one that tells you when it was last taxed?