Thinking about buying a VAG

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

Think about buying a Audi/VW/SEAT, Anyone have any opinions on them?

Reliablity, re-sell value etc..?

Loot at something with a 20vt

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

Do it

Site Subscriber Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 1141

Be aware that the 20VT lump comes in many different guises.

The Ibiza Cupra comes with 156bhp while the Leon comes with 177bhp and only the Cupra-R Ibiza comes with 180.

That said as its used in loads of cars, there are LOADS of tuning bits out there.

All you gotta do now is decide which VAG you want it in!

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

Most likey It'll be a Passat/Golf with the 150Bhp version (for insurance reasons) Although I did see a nice looking Leon.

Audi's seem too expensive, 97 A4 is the same price as a 00 Golf. Golf Mk4 Gtis are fairly common and come with Recarros etc.. Not the fastest but they do have style Very Happy

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The 20VT is a very thirsty lump in something like the Passat and feels very slow / laggy. I drove a 20VT Golf GTi and thought it was crap compared to my 2.0 16v Seat Cordoba at the time.

I'd leave the 20VT alone unless your going to get it above 150 as I think your much better off going for a normally aspirated lump and indeed this is what VW did in later GTi's.

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

I've heard the Golfs are pretty slow alright. I was looking online at Cordobas aswell. Quite a few 1.6sr coupes, not the fastest or anything I know but very insurance friendly for me. Any thoughs on the 1.8 20v non turbos? A few of them around, mostly in Toledos.

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

The 20vT is very thirsty in any car, i can only imagine the passat is terrible!

The difference between a 150 and 180 is huge, the 150 seems to need to be revved to the moon to get anywhere but the 180 is like a nice turbo diesel

I have the leon here today if you want to pop over

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

Stuck in work all day Sad

Wouldn't mind dropping over someday to have a look. How are the interiors on the SEATs? Same as the VW?

I guess a Red TDI would probably be a better buy than the 150 20vt.

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The leon/ toledo has the same dash as an audi a3 which is very similar to a golf. I don't think the seats are recaros, nice tho!

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

http://carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carid=398200

Tidy looking, 128Bhp and and 229 lb ft of torque. Nicer drive than the 20vt 150 I'd say and suprisingly easy to insure.

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

http://carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=398457

Laughing

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

Bit gash looking isn't it

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

lol just a bit

What sort of money are you looking to spend?

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

looking to spend about 8k with my old clio as a trade in, might get 1000 for it. So looking at ones advertised at 9-10k. Leons are outta my range really. Toledos and Cordobas are cheap enough so are Boras.

Problem with the TDI is they are all 90Bhp ones, not a whole lot of the 110 and 130 ones about.

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:27 am

Like the Audi personally 8K will get you a nice cabby one!

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

In euros tho' 8k in Ireland would hardly buy you a bycle Sad

Looked at ones up north and in England but when I add on VRT its not worth the hassle.

Retroholic Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 5685

I dunno about the tdi's but the vrt on 20v's isn't bad at all. still bloody hassle tho

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:48 pm

AUDI Cabby! 7,252 Euro (Silly Money)

http://search.autotrader.ie/www/cars_search?country=IE&modelexact=1&make=Audi&model=&keywords=&min_pr=6000&max_pr=8000&min_year=&max_year=&source=&currency=EUR&county=all&county_list=0&sort=5&searchurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.autotrader.ie%2Fwww%2Fcars_search&searchparam=country%3DIE%26sort%3D5%26currency%3DEUR%26make%3DAudi%26model%3D%26min_pr%3D6000%26max_pr%3D8000%26county_list%3D3_4_5_6_7_10_11_12_13_14_15_16_18_19_20_21_22_23_24_25_26_28_29_30_31_32%26x%3D34%26y%3D11&SUBMIT.x=40&SUBMIT.y=12&page=0

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

Silly money cheap? Vrt is probably about â‚¬1500 on that.

Like these,

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=375699

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there quality little cars

mum has the sports KA..

hmm, i never mention that she went ahead and bought it.

tis great fun.

Level 8 User Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 315

hmmm thats not what I ment to post up Embarassed

Should have been http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=387621