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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:49 am |
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0 - 60 6.9 seconds
Weight 1240kg's
Oh dear. |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:56 am |
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134mph top whack as well. |
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Neal
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:44 pm |
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Dan
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:59 pm |
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it handles amazingly tbh. ive never been in something that is so good round corners! |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:08 pm |
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isnt the 0-60 the same as the clio 182?and the weight seems to be a lot heavier than the 19 considering its a smaller car.what a dissapointment |
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Dan
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:10 pm |
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but the 19's dont have 4 airbags etc. or ncap 5 rating. |
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Neal
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:13 pm |
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Therein lies the beuaty of old (late 80s-early 90s) hot hatches |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:14 pm |
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safety is for those that fear an honourable death... |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:14 pm |
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and,you take a sierra cossie over 15 years old 202/220 bhp and it would beat a 197 with not much more power! |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:16 pm |
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19/clio 16V isn't much slower to 50 and have higher top speeds! |
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Neal
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:18 pm |
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They try to go back to old skool hot hatch lightweight minimalism with the 'cup' variants or whatever - some of the aircon and other crap removed to save weight, but unfortunately the lard is fundamentally built into the car.
Nice if you particularly need the doors to shut with a weighty clunk sound though. |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:23 pm |
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| Chris H";p="100064 wrote: |
| 19/clio 16V isn't much slower to 50 and have higher top speeds! |
0-50 maybe but there a lot faster getting to there top speeds than the 19/clio.
and they can get a stupid chip that gives them 75 bhp for a couple of hundred quid.so unfair  |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:27 pm |
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I meant 60, doh!
19 16V is 7.2 to 60.
they can't get any chip to give them 75bhp for a few hundred. |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:34 pm |
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my brother in law had a sierra cosworth rwd about 9 years ago and he got it nearly 300bhp rolling road for under a grand,ill need to ask him about first before i start digging my self into a deeper hole  |
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Dan
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:34 pm |
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I cant see why they're still using the F4R! |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:36 pm |
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standard cossie will get to 60 in the 5's matey.
Also cossie power is easy and cheap, I miss them. The pish manifold on them helped bring the power down from cosworths original testing which was 320bhp back in 83 ish. Good old YBA which had the funny cam cover and tubular manifold. road cars got the shite set up. |
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Neal
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:37 pm |
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because it costs a LOT of money to develop a whole new engine
Besides, 197 from a production N/A 2.0 aint too shabby - the Civic type R is the same! |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:38 pm |
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also valver the clios not turbocharged. |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:41 pm |
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valver
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:42 pm |
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Chris H
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:43 pm |
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no one has questioned the cossie power thing. I know these engines well had a 450 rwhp RS500 you know! |
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