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Doc
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:13 am

Mine was just like that 5 minutes ago!

Took it down the bypass at a rapid rate of knotts a couple of times and it's cleared up now.

don't know why it happend, I only changed the plugs and leads.

However this proberbly won't help your situation if youve already given it a good rag.
Addie
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:36 am

All I can say is that when I had it (2 months, 3,000 miles) I've never seen it pump out that much steam! Ok, it had a CAT on it then, but I dunno!
Xvisor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:13 am

If you ask me that's the lot of steam you encounter when its -20c celsius and the car is cold. I would really check plugs. By the look of the steam and the length the steam keeps hanging head might still not be ok?!
Neal
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:23 am

something is clearly fecked isnt it.
simonds1
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:54 am

ooh that sounds nice Very Happy lol. Mine smokes when I first use it, but not that much. Could it just be that u have a scorpion ( I think) and I have standard renault exhaust? Surely the bigger the exhaust, the more smoke / steam ur gonna get out of it?
huwwatkins
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:34 pm

I dunno, I really am at a loss to explain things now. Im not sure if its loosing water, i mean the level does go down, but im not sure if thats due to the system pressurising itself?
Xvisor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:43 pm

How much does the hight in coolant in the reservoir differ when the engine is hot or cold? and does if differ positive(up) or negative(down)
huwwatkins
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:59 pm

Well, with the engine cold, i filled it up to the max mark, once the engine started to warm up it went down, didnt seem to come back up either once i'd depressurised it.
Xvisor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:06 pm

Well if u depressurise the system when hot the coolant will be expanded due to temperature and should sit atleast half to 1 cm higher then it was when cold (mostly it will be about 2-3cm higher) If the level drops when warming there is either a s**tload of air in the system (shouldn't make it drop to much), it's leaking or it's drinking(consuming). So when u open the cap the level has to be higher then is was when cold. The level should always rise when the system is ok! When the engine is cooled down (few hours) the level should be the same as it was before you started it to warm it up. (When u opened the cap when it was hot, turn the engine off and check back after few hours it will prob stay a little higher then it was before starting. That's ok)
Neal
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:17 pm

Xvisor wrote:
Well if u depressurise the system when hot the coolant will be expanded due to temperature


*Retro-renault disclaimer*

Don't undo the cap when the engine is proper hot boys and girls, you'll burn your face off! Razz
Xvisor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:22 pm

Should take a towel to open it with (to be sure) and not be hanging with your head almost in the hole!! Atleast you've learned something of of that then Shocked
huwwatkins
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:46 pm

Haha, yeah I did that, cap flew off followed by a load of water. Its cetrainly not going back up... and it seemed that the further i travelled the worse it got. The pissing out white steam/smoke is an indication that water is getting in somehow? What would that be? (twised or warped head?) or somthing else. It did smoke a fair bit when idling before the gasket change, but not nearly as much. so maybe its somthing else?
Xvisor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:22 pm

You made sure all head bolts are ok and tightened the right way and enough? If so chances indeed are a warped head, it's probably gonna need skimming. Might wait for what chris has to say but if you ask me you're have to take it all off again! I surely wouldn't drive it to york tomorrow if i were you cus you'll prob feck it up only further.

Good luck mate your gonna need it! Confused
huwwatkins
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:28 pm

Yeah, thats what I was thinking, head off, skim, new gasket, head back on. and if it dont work then i think i really will cry.
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:19 am

thats like the white chamade and its gaskets fine. If you rev it hard enough you can cover people that walk by in manky water.

I say drive it more!

If the gaskets away then for it to go out the exhaust it would also be pressurising the system so the cap would be venting all the time.
huwwatkins
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:00 am

You dont reckon 30 miles of driving was enough? You reckon driving itmore would stop it pissing smoke?
mals
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:04 am

It doesnt sound too good Huw. I personally wouldnt drive it any further
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:09 am

take the head off again do it all again then when you post back up with the same symptoms you'll get the same reply.
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:15 am

just been out to mine, its wet up here so you can't see the steam, only the haze which you can't pic up on the phone.

Water as usual is dripping out of the exhaust though.

Did you put plain water or antifreeze mix in the cooling system?

If anti freeze you can smell it when the smokes there.
huwwatkins
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:18 am

Yesi put an antifreeze mix in, the smoke just seeems to smell petroly? If its not the head gasket causing it to piss smoke, then what is? I dont want to take the head off, what else do you suggest? You've seen the video, that can't be normal?
huwwatkins
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:19 am

It did smoke a fairbit on idle before, but nearly asbad as this.
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