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Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

Oh I thought it was 70% braking at the front. Actually doesn't that figure depend on how heavy you are braking? Surely the heavier you brake the more the weight of the car shift onto the front wheels and the more the front brakes have to do.

To correct the car during oversteery type slide all you have to do is point the wheels in the direction you want t car to go, of course if you just floor it you are going to just switch from over to understeer whereas if you feather the throttle you will be able to find a spot where there is neither too little or too much power so you end up with good constant traction. It's all about balance, balance is all about small movements and changes so jumping from lock to lock and jamming on the power is never going to achieve that balance that you need.

Also I've watched many,many races (Bloody motors TV repeats) where front wheel drive cars have a mandatory swap and are only allowed to change two tyres. They Always change the fronts. The reason being the front is doin most of the work so that's where you want the grip.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

ok whatever, in my and everyone elses experience that I know that drives a 4wd or high powered rwd car is very easy to control, the dead weight of a fwd car with an open diff is not easy to control on bald tyres.

theory like you just put up is all very well and good but never happens like that.

i can control a 500bhp rwd car drifting round a motorway bend at 100mph easier than I can control a fwd open diffed bald rear tyred car losing its back end at 40mph

rear tyres on fwd race cars are not subject to the same camber, flatspotting, heat blisters or anything else that the rears are, they also run an LSD not an open diff, so its entirely different.

Site Subscriber Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 731

oky doky. I can see this gettin silly now so I'll leave it with this. The rears aren't bald, never said they were. Just not as good as the fronts.

Also I wasn't trying to make a comparison between front and rear wheel drive. I just know that I get a lot of people telling me you can't oversteer in a FWD. You can, you just can't sustain it in the same way rwd can.

TBH this article explains what I mean better than I can.

http://www.modernracer.com/tips/frontwheeldriveoversteer.html

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

you can oversteer in a fwd, no one said you can;t you can control it as well if you have grip, but you can;t with bald tyres.

that article is just re-gurgitated shite, theres a lot more to it thatn that.

i coudl set a car up so it oversteers leaving the drive even with grippy tyres.

Only diff is with grippy tyres you can control it, with bald ones you cannot.