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Dr_S
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Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:03 am

Hello everyone

I am new on this forum, and I must admit it is far better than anyother on the net.
I have done research on this forum, but then I decided to open new topic for my question.

Well, I have megane coupe 1.6e(K7M) and in near future I want to swap engine to 2.0 16v (F7R).
Then I want to do some modifications to the engine.

New pistons
Con rods(if necessary)
ported and polished head (myself)
custom made intake and exaust manifold(myself)
adjustable pullys(made myself)
sport camshaft
ECU chiped or maybe megasqurt ECU
and some other small things

So my question is:
How much HP can stock pistons and con rods handle?
whic camshaft should I take to get most power and tourqe between 2500-7000RPM?
What parts do I have to take to run engine?(coded key,...)
Does F7R mounts fit directly to K7M mounts?
Are axes from 2.0 megan stronger than in 1.6 megan?
How much HP can I expect?
This are few problems that I would like to know.

p.s:Sorry for my english, I hope you`ll understand what I wanted to ask.
I am from Slovenia

Simon
Chris H
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Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:48 am

the F7R from the megane uses different mounts, it uses the clio style hanging mounts.

But it can be converted to use the 1.6 style mounts.

Pistons and rods can handle 200bhp+ depending on the power delivery though.

Theres a lot to choose from camshaft wise.

If its a megane 2l then the key BIC and engine ECU. But depending ont he car it may work with the existing key with the 2l ECU

The 2l driveshafts (axles) are a bit thicker but its not that important really, the thinner ones can handle the power if driven properly.

Depends on how well you make things, if done properly 200bhp should be easy enough, if its built poorly then less than standard.

Your english is very good.
JB
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:47 am

Hi Simon,

Welcome to Retro, sounds like an interesting project.

I hope you will be sharing your progress with us along the way Very Happy We do like pics here!

Have you done much engine work before? You're sounding pretty confident with the amount of work you will be taking on yourself, it would be interesting to hear about them.

Cool
Dr_S
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Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:42 am

Thanks for reply

About the mounts I was wondering if position is the same in 2.0 or 1.6, because I don`t know how mounts from clio looks Embarassed
I will harden the rubber.
Are axes same lenght in 2.0 or I have to buy them too?


Well my friend and I are in the local club and he compets in Drag races.
He has Ford Fiesta XR2i and we did some things for his car.
Adjustable pullys, exaust manifold, nitro.... Wink

He`s best time in 1/4mile standing start is 13.98
From original 16.5 I think this is nice improvement.

Original pullys from Ford Fiesta

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Water jet
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Final product

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AND EXAUST MANIFOLD

Begining

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Little more

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Some more

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Final product
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I hope you don`t minde because this is not renault. But something like this we will do for F7R engine.
Chris H
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Posts: 19978

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:52 am

the driveshafts are the same length as far as I know, but if its liek the 19 then it may have both longer wishbones and driveshafts, but I don't think it does.

Yes the position of the engine is roughly the same, it might tilt back a bit more on the 1.6 mounts
JB
Mr Quoter-vator

Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:18 pm

nice pics Dr. Do you fabricate the tube as well?, very neat. Do you have access to the machinery to do this work? Shame you live so far away.
Dr_S
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:37 am

Chris H@ Driveshaft=axes? Sorry but I don`t know all the phrases for engine parts.
Wishbones?????
Dr_S
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:41 am

Jonnyboy@

Yes I have access to the machinery.
MY friend rox with AutoCad and what my mind wants his brains do. Cool


If I fabricate tubes.?

What are tubes? If it is from metal then we can fabricate them.
Dan
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Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 3547

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:56 am

piping = tubes, all the pipes on the exhaust manifold. i what im assuming jonnyboy is talking about
Dr_S
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:21 am

We buy straight pipes and 90degres curves and then we make exaust or intake manifold.

But depends from engine to engine what size we use.
Material is inox.
Chris H
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Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:36 am

Driveshaft = axle (axe is used to cut wood)

Axle goes from the gearbox to the wheel it transmits the drive.

Wishbone = lower suspension arm
Dr_S
Level 1 User

Joined: 20 Jun 2005
Posts: 34

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:50 am

Chris H wrote:
Driveshaft = axle (axe is used to cut wood)

Axle goes from the gearbox to the wheel it transmits the drive.

Wishbone = lower suspension arm


He he, we learn every day.

Tnx
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