Changing clutch and or box

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

OK chaps, what is the best way of changing the clutch and or box on the old hemmy of a valver?
Can u seperate the box in car i.e slip it into the wheel well or does it have to come out with the engine?
where do i start,what to do in preping job,what gear [no pun intended] do i need to compleat the job....i.e gasgets,oil,springs,1 way dry weave top sheets .oooops wrong job Embarassed

special tools.
what do i look for once the box is seperated
whats the time scale?
will i need a garage?
i know 1 thing..........I NEED HELP !!!!!! Mr. Green

i thank u gods of RETROLOGY Very Happy

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

I have just done this, well box is out I'm tryign to find a clutch at the mo for project Y.

Anyway easiest way is to whip the engine out.

But you can move the box over or remove it totally.

It takes a while, if you have garage facilities then a couple of hours.

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

I did mine by dropping the near side subframe and shifting the box over, took me a while, got stuck a few times but the people on here helped a lot. Get somone to help you with the box, its not fun trying to lift it and align it at the same time (heavy!)

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

cheers chaps ........chris you mentioned diff clip on you y project well when i get it to stay in gear[1st-3rd-5th]i have noticed a high pitched weiring sound ......and whilst doing the eng mounts i noticed an almost purple gunk at the base of the selector[by the flywheel]............hopefully Hue .......Dave3533 might be able to assist [fingers crossed] this weekend.........well help diagnose the prob Rolling Eyes

What bits do i need apart from gasket,oil,and prob a clutch

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

what gasket?

Box oil, clutch and thats it.

Sounds like your box oils low, you always get gear oil on the selector and it can look blue/purply.

Btw a clutch will not stop the box jumping out of gear, new oil might but you'll probably need a new box or a strip down which is dearer than another box.

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

thanks chris, daves popping over tomorrow so he can have a listen too........not very healthy sound Exclamation

is it worth the extra Â£'s to get uprated clutch?.....if so have u heard of any bargains lately but not the ones they sell buy the lb lol Laughing

moly-slip or slick 50 as an additive Question

will let u know the outcome 2 morrow

Andy Cool

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

i tried molyslip...waste of time....maybe works better on older style stuff, but did sweet FA on mine.

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

just looked at gearbox with andy, we checked gearbox oil and there is metal in the oil Crying or Very sad

so looks to me like box has had it. so a question as the engine is ally sump what is the easiest way of changing the box

do we have take the engine out? andy says who wants an all expenses to pay holiday in brigthon.....?

cheers dave

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How much metal? When I swapped the oil on a perfectly good box it looked slightly silvery.

Forum Moderator Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 7432

its fine, theres always metal in it

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the oil will have a silver appearence but if its like liquid silver maybe with gold streaks its fecked.

The easiest way is to remove the engine, if the bolts etc are all free then removing the engine and sticking it back in with a nerw clutch will take a few hours.

its also an ideal time to change the cambelt and the tensioners etc.

but you can do it with the engine in situ.

if I had an engine hoist to hand or could get my hands on one its the way I would go...

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

dave's got a hoist.........so does that mean ur coming to brighton for a dirty weekend Wink

To me this is a daunting task that needs to be tackled asap so things to order would be:clutch-oil-a pin thingy that goes on that big shaft[dave told me that 1 ....oh what a hero that guy is ...he found a box for me under his sink ...bonus its clean too Laughing

]...........what other bits u think i'll need matey
andy Cool

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

driveshaft roll pin, which reminds me the red cars missing its.

get new gearstick bushes, they go at the box end.

Also get new down pipe to manifold nuts.

New box oil.

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

nice 1 chris,whilst we're at it could u remind me on that volvo-renault soft clutch arm convertion thingy cause that would be nice Very Happy

shall i get bits from gsf?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

look in the tech article forum for chets volvo arm guide.

GSF is as good as any my good man.

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

nice 1 matey u'r now on the crimbo card list Very Happy

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

just read chets artical for Â£23 its a must Very Happy

ohhhhhh im getting all xsited Rolling Eyes

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

if you find a scrapped megane then you can take the bracket off of that, but you will need to buy the release fork unless someone has whipped the engine and left the box.

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andy-16v wrote:

nice 1 chris,whilst we're at it could u remind me on that volvo-renault soft clutch arm convertion thingy cause that would be nice Very Happy

shall i get bits from gsf?

Stop being such a girl Laughing

Level 5 User Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 119

huw sweety x x x x Wink

u just like the thought of a HARD left thigh.........lol......Grrrrrrr

Site Subscriber Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 1575

bit worried now I said i'd help Shocked

was the thight bit wot (I mean what really) scarred me Laughing

only went over to sort out andys phone Laughing

problem is now andy now you've got my box I now have to convince the misses that there still isn't any room for a freezer in the garage Laughing