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schakal
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:42 am |
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E for experience ,nothing else i am after .
i just got hold of a cylinder head of an escort from my neighbour ,i caught him in action chuck in it in the skip ,asked him nicely tadaaa .its mine .
its been standing in the garden for a long time so its well rusted and dirty but who cares i just want to take it apart to see all the bits and pieces and clean them as well .so it will be a nice experience for me . here are some pics .
ps:i did not see this worth putting in projects or progress section so the mods are more than welcome to put it where ever they like,saying that they have the power to do it anyway
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Neal
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:52 am |
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hah look at that
nice and agricultural. |
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schakal
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:00 am |
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Neal 19 16v wrote: |
hah look at that
nice and agricultural. |
thanks for the couraging neal ,not that i need any anyway |
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JB
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:02 am |
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good for you mate. any experience is valuable, esp free advice. enjoy yourself |
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schakal
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:43 pm |
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cheers jonnyboy,
i think the same way ,the head is for free so no worries if i mess anything up . i took out these bits for a start there were 8 of them .are they the tappets ?
i took an aluminium casing out as well ,3 bolts were holding it .looks like a thermostat housing as there was a thermostat in there
this engine has been a good home for a spider colony by the looks ,i will do some cleaning first and want to take the valves out but dont know how ????? i am afraid i will need some specialist tool
any help much appreciated .
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Neal
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:45 pm |
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those are the rockers. its a pushrod engine ie. the camshaft is down in the block and operates the valves via the rockers via pushrods.
To remove the valves yes you will need valve spring compressors or you can bodge it with a socket and a hammer, but you wont be able to get them back together again using that method. |
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Roger Red Hat
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Sun Jan 02, 2005 1:08 pm |
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look after the collets as well!!
fiddly little buggers
but all adds to the fun.
but wont need to worry about them untill ya taken the valves out/putting em back in.
them heads are quite nice to work on..
remember my mates old XR2 with it in.
Did it only come in 1600 form?
not to sure about that. |
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Soneji
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:03 am |
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lol seen me and chris finding and nabbing shite like that before |
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schakal
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:42 am |
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just been washing it today with the hose .you should have seen the size of spiders coming out of the holes . they are really cheeky ferkers as well ,they try to go back into their holes after i done the washing job . |
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JB
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:50 am |
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i found soakin the head with thinners or Gunk then sprinkle washing powder all over it...leave it soak for a while...then pour kettle after kettle of boiling water over it to clean it....proved well. |
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schakal
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Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:38 pm |
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will try that too,just managed to get rid of a few spiders and trees that were growing inside the head today,i am sure hot water will work wonders as well .
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Chris H
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:00 am |
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ahh the wonderous Ford CVH cylinder head.
Also its not a pushrod engine its an ohc engine, the cam is run in the head uder the rockers. In the pics you can see under the rockers the hydraulic lifters.
As for capacity, wellin europe tyhey had it in 1.1 but not in the uk they had 1.4 and 1.6 and the 1.8 but the 1.8 is totally different and I have a 1.8 head in my shed |
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Roger Red Hat
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:02 am |
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wernt the xr3i a 1.8?
cant member now, uncle had one..and it was rather quick. |
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schakal
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:16 am |
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welcome back chris
can you tell me how to get the valves and springs out without using a valve spring compressor if thats possible pls?
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stan
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:41 am |
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hit them with a heavy lump hammer....pain in the arse, you might aswell spend £20 or whatever at Machine Mart and get a spring compressor |
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Chris H
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:06 am |
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all xr2/3's were the 1.6.
#Use a deep socket with an extension on it and belt it with a lump hammer as Stan said.
But pain in the arse, valve spring compressors are cheap enough these days. |
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schakal
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:16 am |
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fair enough i will buy a valve spring compressor if its easier that way. do they differ in sizes ???? am i looking for anything specific ??? |
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Chris H
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:24 am |
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I will move this to the members projects forum I think.
Go to halfords and you will see them. If not ask. The dearer one is better as it is reversable and both ends are adjustable but unless your gonna be doign a lot of heads or 16V heads I';d leave it and go with the cheaper forked end type. You will know what I mean when you see it. |
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schakal
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Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:29 am |
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cheers chris i will check the prices and all and see what i can get . |
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schakal
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:13 am |
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how do you work this thing out chris ? i put it on the valve on one side and the spring on the other side but after tightening a bit the adjustable handle just pops out .it does not do the compressing action. what do i do?
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Chris H
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:21 am |
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right you have it on the right way.
Basically you fit it then push the handle in, it locks in place.
If you push it and it just pushes back loosen it off a tad and try again.
Also if the caps not going down a quick tap on the cap will free it so you can compress it easily. |
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