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 Phase 1 and 2 front ends
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Doc
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:41 am

Anyone know if the Phase 2 front end (bonnet, bumper, grill, lights) are interchangeable with the Phase one?

I don't envisage too many differences; however I don’t want to pay the money for the bits if it's going to be a pig to fit.
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:44 am

yes but the question is why do you want to make a ph1 16V look like a ph2 1.4?
Doc
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:52 am

I take it your a fan of the Phase 1??

The Phase 2 also had a 16v, as I'm sure your aware.
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:58 am

yes but the ph2 16V looks exactly like a ph2 1.4.

On the ph1 its totally different and cannot be mistaken for a non 16V
Doc
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:07 am

Point taken.

I guess this mod wouldn't meet with your approval then??
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:40 am

hmmm
Neal
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:42 am

Wicked Neo's white is a phase 1 with phase 2 front end bits (except the bumper), could ask him whats involved. Just a bit of cutting I think, although he did mention welding as well, maybe that's to do a proper job...
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:45 am

its all bolt over! No weldings involved!

You will be missing the top headlight/grill mounting holds but thats no biggie
Doc
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:58 am

would that not make them unstable???

would you have problems with the beam alignment??
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:11 am

the other 3 hold it fine.

You might have a late ph1 witha ph2 shell anyway so the brackets may be there.
Wicked Neo
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:51 am

I just drilled the holes for the grill mounts and the top headlight mounts, very very very easy job.

Mine was done before i bought it and like Chris said, it's just a bolt over job, i've tidied it up by drilling the extra holes, bolting in the lights and grille properly, made the bonnet line up better etc.

Also cos my phase 1 is the 16 valve it has the indicators in the front bumper where as on the phase 2's they are next to the headlights so i wired up the extra indicators next to the headlights so they also work as well as the ones in the front bumper.

proof it can be done

The white 19 is the phase 1 / phase 2 hybrid.

Image
Neal
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:54 am

does look cool that ph2/ph1 hybrid.
schakal
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:07 pm

what about the back ends (rear bumper) would a ph1 rear and front bumpers fit a ph2 easily ????
Chris H
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:22 am

yes
Bridges
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:24 am

Back end wise, I think you will need to rehouse the number plate. if you put it between the lights like on a phase 1 then you might have to remove the rear light/reflector board, which in turn house's the fog light.
Chris H
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:31 am

yes you would but I thought that would be obvious

also if you remove that gay rear ppanel on the tailgate your left with holes that need filled.
Bridges
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:48 am

Must admit the reflector panel does look utter pants, my 4 door looked so much better with it off when I was changing my cracked one. RENAULT, YOU BUM HEAD MONKEY ARSE'S!! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

Chris I am turning to the dark side I am starting to think that the phase 1's are much better looking cars.
red19rt
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:40 am

I have to disagree with you there, I think the rear reflector (on the chammy at least) is the best part of the ph2 styling - schakal will back me up on that but then that's not neccessaraly a good sign Laughing Laughing

I am convinced that the p1 valver front is way better than the ph2 now though Twisted Evil
schakal
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:50 am

the reflector panel is the best bit of ph2 ,you ph1 owners are just jealous me thinks .

this will sound like a chavy idea as normal but i want to get my front and rear bumpers out and replace them with nicely black sprayed ph1 bumpers .
Laughing
red19rt
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:55 am

I have to admit that thought crossed my mind a while ago when I saw a set of red front and rear ph1 bumpers and sideskirts on ebay.
schakal
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:58 am

side skirts is a must as well .
the car would look much lower with those on .found a front and rear bumper 120 miles away for 30 quid ,not sure if i can be arsed to go all the way though
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