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highlander
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Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 31

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:24 am

16v very unreliable with crap cooling and running costs 1.4 energys run all day and starts everytime 180000 all origonal with little sacrifice with mph know which id have and own p1 1.4 gtsx
huwwatkins
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Joined: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 2317

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:30 am

Have you driven a 16v?
highlander
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Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 31

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:33 am

no never owned a mg montego thats as good cant afford insurance currently200p 3 party f/f on 1.4 with full no claims
Neal
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 7432

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:35 am

hmm not really getting off on the right foot here buddy i have to say, but despite my better judgement to just ignore this and say 'go away troll'...

highlander wrote:
16v very unreliable


16v are not unreliable if maintained properly. The problem is that they are bought cheaply by neddy little boy racers who rag the arse off them and never service them or open the bonnet. 1.4s on the other hand tend to be owned by grannys and housewives who dont rev them over 3000 rpm and have them serviced religiously.

highlander wrote:
with crap cooling and running costs


yeah, coolings not the best admittedly, but again, if maintained properly it is perfectly adequate. As for running costs if you mean economy, well youre not going to run a 1.8 for the same money as a 1.4 are you.

highlander wrote:
1.4 energys run all day and starts everytime


Yep, so does my 106,000 mile 16v, you know why? yes, thats right, because i maintain it

highlander wrote:
with little sacrifice with mph


So you've driven a 16v have you? been in one? no, didnt think so.

highlander wrote:
know which id have and own p1 1.4 gtsx


good for you, its good that you like your car.
highlander
Level 1 User

Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 31

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:49 am

i drive my car to save money on components not to impress i can impress when i step out of it im just saying which i prefer
huwwatkins
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Joined: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 2317

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:53 am

Er, its not to impress, ok, so maybe some of it is. But the main thing is to ENJOY driving and have FUN doing it and I can assure you, a 16v is a lot more fun to drive than a 1.4. If you want to save money, get a diesel.
william
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Joined: 25 Nov 2004
Posts: 350

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:58 am

highlander wrote:
i drive my car to save money on components not to impress i can impress when i step out of it im just saying which i prefer


thats fair enough matey but you could have used a bit of tact in the way you delivered that information Laughing
Neal
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 7432

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:45 pm

highlander wrote:
i can impress when i step out of it


Cool you'll have to give me some tips, do you do a back flip out of the sunroof or something? I find getting out of a car pretty mundane really, definately not something I would impress anyone with...
roddy21t
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Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 589

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:20 pm

The 2 best cars iv owned where my 1916v's, as for being unreliable ...well lets not forget that the youngest one is now going on for 10yrs old and as Neal rightly says, they get bought cheaply by neds who just thrash the living daylights out of them, never bother checking the oil levels, use cheap rubbish replacement parts on them or give them a quick check over ever week or so, then have the cheek to say they're crap when they breakdown Rolling Eyes
Buy a decent 1916v thats been looked after and serviced regulary, and providing you do the same then you'll have fun fun fun and a smile the joker would be proud of Laughing
Wicked Neo
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Joined: 04 Jan 2005
Posts: 3680

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:21 pm

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i've had 4 16 valvers and all have been reliable, no major probs with any of them. just the usual wear and tear of daily use, same for any car 12 years old +
Chris H
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Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:40 am

this one has been the most unreliable I have owned, its over 120k.

The 1.4 with 205k had a new clutch, alt, water pump etc etc more than this one has had, so its about evens.

To be fair this one has been through 8 previous owners and the last one was super ned.
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