Looking for a couple of brave souls . .

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

Alright,

as topic states i'm looking for a couple of brave souls who own R19 16valve ph1 or ph2 or clio valvers.

Reason: to test a modded chip for your ECU.

as you may recall from the ebay section, a guy called Mick has been selling modded chips for ECU's claiming a power increase.

I have tested 3 chips for him so far on one of my ECU's and we have discovered a fault that may lie in the immobliser circuit on the later issue ECU's

I will be carrying out further testing on my ph1 ECU meantime.

what it involves, you have to remove your ECU and if you are lucky once you have it opened you will have a nice socket to swap the chips over with, if you are unlucky you will have to do some soldering.

My ECU on the ph2 is non socket but to aid in my testing i have modded it with a socket to ease swapping over ECU's.

if you dont have the skills to do the soldering on the ECU, i can do the job for you but it will involve a 3 day turnaround, 1 day for u to send me the ECU, 1 day for me to recieve it and solder the socket on, post it back and then the 3rd day you should get it back.

if the modded chip fails then its a case of swapping it back over for the standard chip.

its a 10 minute job to swap chips with a socket in place.

Dont apply if your ECU is marked
HOM7700857526
BVM7700860285
Siemens S101715101

Mick is suppling the chips free of charge to those willing to carry out testing, these he sells for Â£75 each on ebay.

i have been in deep correspondence with him over the last 2 weeks and it is my firm belief now the guy is selling a genuine product.

he has sent me emails from ppl who have had succesful results from the chips with thier email addys so that i can contact them and confirm the results and ppl have had significant inprovments Smile

with my help we have discovered its not compatible with the above ECU and during further testing he has decided not to sell anymore until he can gurantee they will work on all ECU's.

One last thing, if the modded chip does fail, it does not cause any damage to your ECU, it is merely a set of instructions for the onboard processor, a chip containing software.

check my progress report here and you will see whats involved in swapping the chip yourself

Thanks

Site Subscriber Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 2317

Once i get my red chamade i'll certainly be up for that.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

what sort of testing do you want done exactly.

Site Subscriber Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 458

seeing as i was one of the people that questioned these chips in a previous thread i would be happy to test one. like chris said what would be involved is it just a customer satifaction test or do you require figures?

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

its basicly a compatibility test, for each type of ECU on these cars.
Mick has decided not to sell anymore until he knows that they will work on all types of ECU.

The information required back from you needs to be the serial numbers on your ECU (printed on the top case of the ECU cover)
What happens when you run your car with this chip (i wont say what happened with mine because i dont want to bias the tests one way or another)
And if you notice any increase or dcrease in performance.

You get to keep the chips too if you are happy with them Smile

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

aye gimme one, I have 2 spare 16V ECU's.

The 4 that I have including the 2 chammys outside are all HOM7700742850 and I would imagine 90% of all ph1's are as well.

Solder in as well oh the joys.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

AND its totally different as its a bendix ECU and thus the layout is different.

I stuck a pic up ages ago I'll find it

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

I would imagine its the 28 pin fenix effort (IC9) that is removed

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

Yep IC9 (28 pin) the one with the sticker on

For those that don't know the chip is an EPROM, Eraseable, Programable Read Only Memory so don't remove the sticker from the chips lol as it erases the programming

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

i thought it needed to be blasted with UV light to be erased? cant see how removing the sticker would do that

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

daylight will do it

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

oh...we have them in work, have a little UV lamp to use when they need wiping...daylight didnt seem to upset them..maybe there are differeing types

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

you are aware that there are uv rays in sunlight aren't you? Why do you think you get a tan?

Mr Quoter-vator Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 7405

yes but i didnt think they were strong enough, hence the need for the lamp. perhaps it just speeds it up.

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

UV lamp - instant wipe of memory - most kind of light gives off UV so most types of light are not good for eproms if u remove the sticker.

Chris & Leigh, PM your addresses and i'll send up a socket for you and pass your addresses onto Mick so he can send you the chips.

if you are gonna be unsoldering ur chip, u may as well solder on the socket so if the modded chip does not work, saves u unsoldering again.

anyone else interested in testing these chips ?

Site Subscriber Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 116

Yeah I'll be up for that, I'll pull the ECU apart tomorrow to check whats involved.

Spammer Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 5717

i would like to try it too but my chammy is on a long rest at the moment and do not know when it will be back on road again.

does this guy make chips for non valver versions as well ? i would be interested trying a chip for the 1.8 rt single point inj. to be honest ,i just love that car Laughing

FCS Event Manager Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 3680

cheers bladey, if your not too sure on what u are doing, as you are in essex, you can pop round and i'll do the mod for you.

Schaks, i dunno but if he does they aren't the chips being tested, sorry.

Site Subscriber Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 1575

yeah i'll give it a go only how soon do you want the results? and is there a proper test sheet for analysing the results? haven't put the engine in yet Laughing

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

the sockets on its way to me and the ECU will be sent tomorrow.

I will be testing it on the old 0-60, 0-80, 0-100 and see what the top end is and the most important of all fuel consumption.

Site Subscriber Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 116

Yep mines bendix HOM7700742850 solder in aswell.

I will take you up on the offer of doing the mod for me, your in southend i think you said.

nice trip down in the sun to the essex riviera!