| Author |
Message |
Neal
Forum Moderator
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 7432
|
| Posted:
Tue May 18, 2004 3:55 pm |
|
anyone know which code is for which gearbox, phase 1, 2, 3 etc?
Ie JB3S23, JB3S24 etc |
|
|
|
|
Chet T16
Retroholic
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 5685
|
| Posted:
Tue May 18, 2004 4:16 pm |
|
loads and loads of different ones
My ph2 was a JB3083 |
|
|
|
|
Neal
Forum Moderator
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 7432
|
| Posted:
Tue May 18, 2004 4:54 pm |
|
where might i find this information? |
|
|
|
|
Chet T16
Retroholic
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 5685
|
| Posted:
Wed May 19, 2004 1:59 am |
|
go thru dialogys and see which ones it'll let you pick |
|
|
|
|
denis.dup
Level 1 User
Joined: 16 May 2004
Posts: 32
|
| Posted:
Wed May 19, 2004 9:33 am |
|
I know 2 type JB3 049 ==> CLIO 16S PH1
JB3 051 ==> R19 16S Ph2 (1995year) my car lol
I can give u gear info (uuppsss.... i don't know how to say in english...  ) "rapport de boite et couple" in french  |
|
|
|
|
Ben P
Level 5 User
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 107
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 2:07 am |
|
Do you mean gear ratios?
Are the ratios different between the phase1 and phase2 19 16valve? |
|
|
|
|
Chris H
Forum Moderator
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 4:02 am |
|
yes they are, well they are supposed to be but I doubt it really.
the ph2's have shorter gearing, this is to allow them to gain back some acceleration to match the ph1's but they don't manage it. |
|
|
|
|
JB
Mr Quoter-vator
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 5:03 am |
|
i get 65 in 2nd....sounds quite long isnt it? |
|
|
|
|
Chris H
Forum Moderator
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 5:28 am |
|
ph2 actual is only 61 in 2nd, I think you get 68 in a ph1, cannae mind. |
|
|
|
|
Ben P
Level 5 User
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 107
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 5:56 am |
|
Gear ratios confuse me.
Chris - Tech article per chance?
I want to understand all about gearboxes and how they work. |
|
|
|
|
Chris H
Forum Moderator
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 6:00 am |
|
ok another one for the evergrowing list then.... |
|
|
|
|
denis.dup
Level 1 User
Joined: 16 May 2004
Posts: 32
|
| Posted:
Thu May 20, 2004 2:30 pm |
|
| Ben P wrote: |
Do you mean gear ratios?
Are the ratios different between the phase1 and phase2 19 16valve? |
Yes i'm talking abour gear ration !
Ph1 gear have different ratio to ph2 (humm not very english lol sorry)
:
JB3 044 : (r19 16s ph1)
1st 11/34
2 19/35
3 25/33
4 30/29
5 39/31
Final 15/61
JC5 014 (clio williams) !
1st 11/34
2 22/41
3 28/37
4 34/35
5 39/31
Final 15/61
JB3 048 (clio 16s Ph1)
1st 11/34
2 19/35
3 25/33
4 30/29
5 39/31
Final 14/59
JB3 053 (r19 16s ph2)
1st 11/34
2 22/41
3 28/37
4 34/35
5 34/28
Final 15/61
JB3 037 (r19 TXI)
1st 11/34
2 22/41
3 28/37
4 30/29
5 41/31
Final 14/59 |
|
|
|
|
Ben P
Level 5 User
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 107
|
| Posted:
Fri May 21, 2004 5:21 am |
|
That's the kind of information I want to be able to understand! I'm sure it's not difficult so will somone explain it?
Oh and Denis, I think your English is excellent. I could show you a couple of other Renault sites where the English people speak worse English than you  |
|
|
|
|
JB
Mr Quoter-vator
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405
|
| Posted:
Fri May 21, 2004 7:45 am |
|
well imagine a ratio of 1:2....first gear spinning at 1 rpm will turn the following gear at 2 rpm...
so in 1st gear 11rpm will equal 34 rpm out.....
(it may be vice versa - cannot be sure)
(in fact i may be totally wrong...await for someone to confirm) |
|
|
|
|
stan
Gay Rights Activist
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Posts: 1268
|
| Posted:
Fri May 21, 2004 7:59 am |
|
vice versa!
1st gear:34:11 (or 3.09:1)...........34 revolutions from the engine gives 11 revs at the final drive. this is gearing down, hence multiplying the engine torque to give a higher torque at the wheels......thats all a g/box is--a torque multiplier |
|
|
|
|
JB
Mr Quoter-vator
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
Posts: 7405
|
| Posted:
Fri May 21, 2004 8:00 am |
|
|
|
|
Ben P
Level 5 User
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 107
|
| Posted:
Wed May 26, 2004 5:27 am |
|
Sorry to bring this up again but I just wondered:
What effect would fitting a phase2 19 16v box to a phase1 19 16v have?
Ok maybe in reality not much, but in theory? |
|
|
|
|
Chet T16
Retroholic
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 5685
|
| Posted:
Wed May 26, 2004 5:47 am |
|
In theory you'd lose the homosexual tendencies that affect ph1 owners, you'd probably bulk up a bit, you'd find yourself not wanting to wear string vests and hard hats, you'd find yourself looking at the girl in pornos...etc etc
HTH  |
|
|
|
|
Chris H
Forum Moderator
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
Posts: 19978
|
| Posted:
Wed May 26, 2004 5:56 am |
|
anbd in theory the car would be a tad quicker. But not top end wise. |
|
|
|
|
Ben P
Level 5 User
Joined: 04 May 2004
Posts: 107
|
| Posted:
Wed May 26, 2004 6:57 am |
|
| Chet wrote: |
In theory you'd lose the homosexual tendencies that affect ph1 owners, you'd probably bulk up a bit, you'd find yourself not wanting to wear string vests and hard hats, you'd find yourself looking at the girl in pornos...etc etc
HTH |
Ha ha. And I was worried that changing gear with a phase 2 box would make my wrist go limp |
|
|
|
|
|
|
