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schakal
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:24 am

its getting harder and harder to start up from cold lately ,i can hear the fuel pump priming and the starter turning as it should but somehow the engine refuses to start . today i had to bump start in reverse gear and it was not fun with a non worky steering .
after 5 mins i killed the engine and started up straight away no problems ,the CTS is brand spanking new and should not be the cause .

so what is it ??? starter motor ,battery ,alternator ????
huwwatkins
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:43 am

neglect and jealousy... Wink
schakal
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:48 am

fair enough ,i did neglect her a bit lately due to the new girl in town Laughing

but she will have the servicing of her life after chammy is on the road
Chris H
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:50 am

crank angle sensor, also i'm sensing deja vous in the topic and the reply
schakal
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:56 am

its probably because i have not got a feckin clue where the crank angle sensor is ?? Laughing
where is it ?
also getting rattley noise from the throttle body/inlet manifold area which developed recently .i always thought it was the exhaust shield as it was missing bolts but it is not . is there a bit that can cause this metallic rattle sound in that area ???
huwwatkins
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:23 pm

The crank angle sensor is next to the angled crank....no seriously....top of the gearbox bellhousing against the engine block looking down at the fly...
schakal
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:16 am

huwwatkins wrote:
The crank angle sensor is next to the angled crank....no seriously....top of the gearbox bellhousing against the engine block looking down at the fly...


can you take a picture of this please or can you point the rough direction to the sensor on this picture .
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Dan
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:48 pm

underneath the thermostat housing. 2 bolts, with a 2 pin plug on the end
schakal
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:57 pm

now you are talking ,i did not notice there was a sensor under the thermostat housing Rolling Eyes
will have a better look now
schakal
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:41 pm

buggery balls ,there is something(rather oily and black) just 1cm underneath the thermostat housing and there is a thick black wire going into it ,the wire comes along and i can see there are 2 thin wires inside .the wires end up in a grey plug that connects to another plug (2pin)

but that sensor thing you are on about how does it come off,i cant see any bolts etc due to lack of space ????????
Dan
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:02 pm

the black sensor has 2 11mm bolts in it, either side, dont try to touch it when its just been run... Rolling Eyes
JB
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:11 pm

not 1cm below the thermostat, thats still on the head! thermostat, follow it down til u hit the gear box...there.
schakal
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:14 pm

there is a metal water pipe going underneath the sensor as well ,this wont be an easy task but i shall achieve Laughing
JB
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:15 pm

below that pipe again!! keep goin until ur finger hits big metal thing - gearbox.

then on top of gearbox pointing towards engine, actually in the bellhousing of the gearbox you will find it...

remember that wire that we questioned sitting on top of the box, follow that.
schakal
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:40 am

found the fecker at last ,it does not appear to be a sensor at all but there you go

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as you can see it was full of oil and crap ,gave it a good clean and put it back in .

while messing around the throttle body area i found this ,the plastic connector that connects 3 pipes together was broken even though i have done a tidy duck tape job months ago ,but i evolved since than and discovered fiber glass and the plastic connector was not aware of that was it ????

gave it a good clean first
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than took it to schakal headquarters and introduced to super glue

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and stuck the fiber glass on top
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ten minutes later took the tape out and its stronger than ever
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a few months ago when i took this connector out all the pipes and the throttle body was full of mayoish oil but never came across to that stuff today . still driving the car for short trips to work and back most of the time ,so whats happened there than ?????
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:18 am

ambient temp is higher these days so not as much mayo is formed.
schakal
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:28 am

so where has all that mayo gone,produced while the ambient temperature was ass freezing cold a few months ago ?
Chris H
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:08 am

its been steamed off so to speak
schakal
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:58 pm

this morning ,i tried to start up for the second time after the CAS cleaning and the engine just did not want to . as the car was parked facing up the hill ,i had to bump start it in reverse trying to dodge the cars parked on the street . can it be something else that the CAS ?

lately my mp3 player seems to be playing up too ,i turn it on and after a few secs it turns itself off .i turn it on again it turns off ,after a few times it decides to play and keeps playing . which makes me think off battery ???
Chris H
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:46 am

if it bump starts then the CAS is fine.

Starters not turning quick enough.
schakal
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:36 am

so it might be a battery related problem ??
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