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Chris H
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:00 am |
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heres a cut and paste of it
Blanket camera coverage: thin end of the wedge?
ANPR cameraThe Government's Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) system goes live from today, and Transport Secretary Alistair Darling has promised tough enforcement action to crack down on uninsured drivers. Police forces across the country are now able to use ANPR cameras to spot, and ultimately seize and destroy, cars being driven without insurance.
The cameras are linked to a database which contains details of all vehicles registered in the UK which are believed to be uninsured. The Transport Secretary saw West Midlands police in action as they began the crackdown.
Alistair Darling said: "Today we are sending out a very clear message to those who drive without insurance- there is now no place to hide. The new powers to link up cameras and the insurance database will make it far easier for police to tell if passing cars are uninsured and take action against the driver.
"On top of these powers we are creating a new offence of keeping a vehicle without insurance. This will be enforced through a new database of insurance details which means that uninsured drivers don't even need to be on the road to be caught. It is estimated that every law-abiding motorist pays an extra ÂŁ30 a year because of uninsured drivers. Drivers are rightly fed up with those who flout the law and we are determined to rid the roads of this small hard core of anti-social drivers."
The new offence of keeping a vehicle without insurance, announced by the Government in September, will mean that uninsured drivers can be caught before they even take to the road. Earlier this year the government gave the police new powers, to seize and ultimately dispose of any vehicle being found driven uninsured.
It's the launch of a system with laudable aims -- but it's also another step towards a camera-infested, totally surveilled society. Is this what we really want?
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Well it looks like if you have a car and thery are trying to introduce a new law which says if you own a car it has to be insured, even if its in bits. Lovely.
Its classed as driving uninsured if the cars not insured at all.
Which means EVERY car has to have a policy. |
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Dan
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:27 am |
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yea, ok, so a 17yr old i.e me who is buying and selling cars now has to insure every car, well they can shove that up their arse. |
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Chris H
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:29 am |
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exactly!
Its gonna get passed, you just knwo this stupid law will be passed! |
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Chet T16
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:33 am |
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Chris H
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:38 am |
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thats labour and britain the shitegole of the world for you!
At least your out of it chet, your in eire, the place of lephricans and magical people, and 2 year mot equivelants and astronomical ropad tax costs. |
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Chet T16
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:49 am |
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Don't forget our VRT!
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VRT Category A.
Examples of Category A vehicles include cars (saloons, estates, hatchbacks, convertibles, coupes, MPVs, Jeeps etc.) and minibuses with less than 12 permanently fitted passenger seats.
The following VRT rates, subject to a minimum VRT of €315, apply to Category A vehicles:
up to 1400cc 22.5% of OMSP
1401cc - 1900cc 25% of OMSP
>over 1900cc 30% of OMSP
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OMSP = Open Market Selling Price |
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Wicked Neo
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:35 am |
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It only applys if the car is kept on a public road, if the car is SORN for example and kept off road (like my chammys) they don't need to be insured. |
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Chris H
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:39 am |
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they are trying to bin the sorn thing as well. |
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Wicked Neo
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:44 am |
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that would be totally wrong, cars are taken off the road for all sorts of reasons, classic cars kept in storage, retro motors being rebuilt, ppl like me who own 4 cars and cant afford to keep all 4 of them road legal (its hard enough keeping 2 of them road legal), ppl who go abroad to work for a few months/years but want to keep thier car for when they return home etc
also heard on the news yesterday that the Gov want to add extras onto council tax, like if u have a garage you pay more, if u have a shed u pay more, if u have a patio u pay more etc etc
so if you care about your home and improve it, under this new stealth tax you are gonna end up paying more for it
i am really really starting to dislike this labour government, its all down to Gordon Brown not being able to add up properly and having a ÂŁ10 billion short fall in funds. |
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Chris H
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:49 am |
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any future government will promise to remove these new taxes but they won't if they get into office. this countries a pathetic joke. |
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Stephen
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:13 am |
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One of the problems is that the government is not answerable to anyone.
How are you supposed to protest if it has laws against such things?
Do a bit of protesting to get them to listen, and you get charged with a "Public order offence". But if you don't stir up the public then the government won't feel pressured to do anything.
Voice your opinions at the speaker in a conference and you get charged using so called Anti terror legislation, a perverse application.
The whole thing is designed to prevent you objecting and to minimise the effect of it if you do.
“Trust us; we are guarding you against X Y Z, it is for your own good”
Bunch of hypocritical liars.
Just driving this afternoon and saw two new cameras go up. Why are they so nosey?
Give the public what they think they want to subdue them – 24 hour drinking, casinos, falling moral standards on TV – This all distracts from what they are doing behind the scenes. People get so absorbed with being entertained; the government can just do what they please.
Scum. |
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Benskett
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:11 pm |
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Why is there a need to distroy cars that have no insurance?
There might be someone out there who wants that car and is willing to pay the insurance.
It's a fucking waiste. |
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Gentle Ben
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:51 pm |
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It's really fucking shit! |
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frogfrog
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:13 pm |
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if u dont have the cash in todays society you can credit it on cards for insurance etc.no wonder people are going bankrupt .IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT FORGET IT .is the governments policy |
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