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touring_19_16v
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:37 am |
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hey guys long time not been on, well had got recovered yet again by rac(cars getting populer with em)  neway he tested the current on turn over and the multimeter is reading 285amps or just under from a 400 cca battery and she just wont start. neway decided to get on2 ripping it of, 2hr job i thought but the sod wont move from where it is you can turn it upwards and thats it, it wont move back at all ive tried prising it frm the g/box end but there seems to be sumthing stopppin it, ie the bar on the manifold but not sure any ideas?? to add to problems picture this a renault jack under a sump and oil all over the drive see if you can figure that 1 out lol, also the alternator light has decided to stay on after the fans kicked in 3-4 times is there a short or someting there ideas please |
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Chris H
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:57 am |
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remove the bracket on the back of the starter and it will come out.
is it a tin sump?
dodgy wiring. |
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touring_19_16v
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Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:11 am |
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by back of starter do u mean the t shaped thingy on the block or the braket held on by 2 8m nuts?
the standard ally sump on the valvers
it was all fine untill the starter started playing up |
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touring_19_16v
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Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:01 am |
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:@ fookin bolt, does the bolt that holds this have to come off to remove the starter?[img] [/img] |
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Chris H
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:57 am |
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right theres 2 bolts on that, the lower 16mm one to the block which normally comes out easily. The one at the top goes into the manifold itself, that normally snaps the head off.
If you loosen the lower bolt and the other bracket then the starter should come out easily enough mate. |
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touring_19_16v
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:23 am |
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tryed that chris all the bolts of the t shaped bracket are off aswell, wolf came round to have a look and he said the long bar will have to be removed as the plate on the starter motor itself(the one held on by two 8mm nuts) is scraping on the T shaped bar hence when you lever it from the g/box you can only get a gap of about 2 maybe 3 cm and theres till half that in the g/box. if i did snapp that bolt does the bar have to go back on as i dont recall my p2 tungy and p1 red chammy having them? |
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Chris H
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:26 am |
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the bit in the box is cone shaped, you can just get it out, you need to make sure its pulled off the dowel. |
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touring_19_16v
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:29 am |
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i c what your saying but the problem still lies on the drivers side where the starter will just not lift up, you can lever it back abou a inch but has soon you let go it goes back into the original postition, i remember on the red chammy i took the 13mm bolt of the drivers side and the thing just flopped and dropped on this it just doesnt move |
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Chris H
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:32 am |
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well get the 16mm on the manifold off. Breaking the bolt hea doff isn;t a problem, most are like that tbh.
long extension needed.
When you do it put a bolt back in the starter so it doesn;t hit you on the face! |
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touring_19_16v
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:36 am |
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im actually gonna have to hammer a 15mm on there coz a 16mm just slips and then hopefully it will come off, does the starter just have a live feed no earthing points? |
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Chris H
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:43 am |
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yes live feed. Theres 2 wires on the live, the one fromt eh the alt and the black one to the battery pos terminal. And the white solenoid wire.
Its earthed through its body. |
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touring_19_16v
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:48 am |
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wkd m8 might actually put sum more earthsin aswell and see if that helps aswell, i still dont see why the T shaped plate the starters mounted onto doesnt move all there is 2 13mm bolts at the top the 16mm at the bottom and the two heatshield bolts and it just doesnt drop are there any more bolts on the that T shaped plate |
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Chris H
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:33 am |
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the T has the 2 13 at the top the 16 at the bottom and a 13 mm through it from the back of it to hold the starter.
IUts also held on by a small heatshield on the drivers side from the top of the head down by 2 10mm bolts |
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touring_19_16v
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:50 am |
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right so i got all of them off now and u would in theroy expect it to drop but no this bludy thing has to rip it out of a indian done it pile of french crap and heres me thinkin of buying anuther for a toy flippin joke, ill get the 16mm off on wedsday and c how i get on will take pics for you glare at aswell |
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