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Doc
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 1:16 pm |
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I'm toying with the idea of a 2.0l conversion for the white hatch as it's doing nothing much at the moment.
I'm leaning towards using a willy lump as it (from what I’m told) is easier than fitting the megane engine. (Electrics and that sort of thing)
This topic has been covered loads of times so I'm not after a full shopping list. I just need an answer on the following.
What exactly are the differences between the wiring on the megane F7R and the willy F7R?
Do both the willy and megane gearboxes have the diff bolted in or are they circlipped?
is the 1.8 16v fuel pump different to the one used for the F7R?
I'm not 100% sure about taking on the task at the moment, so some advice would be helpful guys. |
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Dan
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:10 pm |
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meggy lump is the same bottom end with different head.
Both boxes are circlipped but the JC5 doesnt pop. |
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Wicked Neo
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:15 pm |
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hehe another F7R conversion in the making.
one major difference is the price Doc,
you will pay anything up to like £1000 for the willy lump, the megane lump sells for a lot less, and now is the time to get one i would imagine as the clio boys are now turning to the megane F7R as well. |
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Doc
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:22 pm |
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Well with the white one bottom end away it's a choice of fix it or convert it to a 2.0L.
As I said, I'm toying with the Idea as I'm not 100% sure as to how much work is realy involved. |
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Neal
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:30 pm |
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the only major thing you need to do to whack the megane one in rather than the williams one is get the head machined to run the dissy.
Otherwise it's basically the same job. A few other little things to do but nothing to worry about.
The megane engine is the better one. |
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Doc
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:33 pm |
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happy with that.
Cheers guys |
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Chet T16
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:07 pm |
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Neal
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:08 pm |
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more effort and expense than its worth. |
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Chet T16
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:11 pm |
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Effort and expense?
1.9 diesel lump for 20 quid, 50 quid to stan for his old pistons, 60 quid for a dremel
Whats the problem there! |
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Doc
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:15 pm |
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| Or convert the 1.8 |
Yea i know, LOL
As far as I'm aware You can lighten and balance the bottom end but after that I run out of Ideas on how to get more power out of it?
It's obviously not something I can do in the shed myself either so what sort of price is that work likely to cost? |
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Dan
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:19 pm |
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Effort and expense?
1.9 diesel lump for 20 quid, 50 quid to stan for his old pistons, 60 quid for a dremel
Whats the problem there! |
LMAO!!!! hmm this pic springs to mind:
The rear window. |
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Neal
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:20 pm |
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Would still need to get the block bored out for 'stan's old pistons' |
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Chet T16
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:22 pm |
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Its hardly bodging, its no different than converting a meg head to dizzy |
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Chet T16
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:24 pm |
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| Would still need to get the block bored out for 'stan's old pistons' |
Your point?
Thats gonna cost about 20 quid |
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Neal
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:26 pm |
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well youre also going to need new rings, shells etc., the lot to do it your way.
if youre just modding the megane head for the dissy and dropping it in, you dont need any of that, just a new head gasket, therefore it is much cheaper. |
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Chet T16
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:33 pm |
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Provided you get a meg lump quickly  |
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Dan
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:34 pm |
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| Its hardly bodging, its no different than converting a meg head to dizzy |
A dremel in my eyes is a bodging way of boring out! |
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James Clio16v
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:39 pm |
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I've been told that new Willy boxes have the diff bolted in (see Williamsclio site) |
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Neal
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:26 pm |
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| Chet T16 wrote: |
| Its hardly bodging, its no different than converting a meg head to dizzy |
A dremel in my eyes is a bodging way of boring out! |
He means use the Dremel to grind away the inside of the crankcase to clear the longer throw crank Dan! |
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Chris H
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:22 am |
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chets way means you can be a sneaky fecker and keep it registered as a 1.8. |
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stan
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:46 am |
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i bored my block out wi a file and some emmery cloth  |
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