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 172 cup vs 19 16v
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lawrence
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:55 am

discuss
valver
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:13 am

my sisters got a clio 182. not that impressed with it
huwwatkins
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:03 am

Was half tempted by a mk2 172 at one point...
JB
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:46 am

172 cups have the advantage of many many drinks...

19 16vs will make 19 ppl very happy.
Peahole
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Joined: 12 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:04 pm

Only had one run in with a 172, off a roundabout and up a slip road. On his ass all the way so im guessing the driver was a numpty or more than likely he wasnt trying and was just teasing me.
Roger Red Hat
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:49 pm

dan has one of each.

and we all know he preferes his 19.
Dan
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:15 pm

The clio has alot of torque low down, and is very quick, handles well, and has springs all round lol

The 19 is more spacious, less driving aids, more comfortable, I think if i'd never had a 19 as my 1st car, i'd prefer the clio the clio has deffo got the enjoyment factor to it, and handles alot better.

I prefer the 19 as it was my 1st car and im more emotionally attached to it.

But in a race, as mine is a ph1 it will be the same, the clio 182 isnt as quick as my 172, my 172 pulls well to the limiter in 5th, as did my 19. the clio will do 155 on the clocks, on the limiter.
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:30 pm

the clios are nice just modern interiors arent

as for a race i would put my monies on the clio
Dan
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:44 am

well neal and JB, and Ben have been in my 172, and the 19's had the revs on me, but i had low down torque. Out of the corners the 19's can put the power down whereas the clios just try and tramp or spin.
jakey_b
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:50 am

The 172 has the advantage of larger cc. Think the 19 should have been made with a small turbo like the 5gtt.

It suffers greatly from lack of low down torque. I drive mine in second everywhere just to keep at that 4k mark to have the power to boot straight away if any one tries it.

Personally I think 19 16vs are absolutely shite off the lights due to this problem?

Clios not so much cos of the weight
Dan
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:55 am

The clios can be good off the lights in the dry, but in the 172's you have to really wait until 2nd until booting it as it just wheelspins, even with progressive throttle it will still try and spin, the slightest bump whilst accelarating hard will upset the car.
jakey_b
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:19 am

I've never driven the clio's before. Apart from an 02 plate 1.5 dci that i had for a courtesy car and thought would be crap, but turned out to be a pleasant suprise when that turbo spooled up!

Ended up spinning out the dealers lol
cockney
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:20 pm

danlp6 wrote:
The clios can be good off the lights in the dry, but in the 172's you have to really wait until 2nd until booting it as it just wheelspins, even with progressive throttle it will still try and spin, the slightest bump whilst accelarating hard will upset the car.


I dont suffer from that problem..
cockney
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:28 pm

What tyres have you got on yours?
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:35 pm

jakey_b
Quote:
It suffers greatly from lack of low down torque. I drive mine in second everywhere just to keep at that 4k mark to have the power to boot straight away if any one tries it.
gives a smile though Very Happy

Quote:
Personally I think 19 16vs are absolutely shite off the lights due to this problem?

its a right pain and in th wet it jus spins with any harsh power Sad
Dan
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:46 pm

Toyo Proxes T1R
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:48 pm

got yoko's
Dan
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:52 pm

Yokos i found crap! just gave no grip around corners!!
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:04 pm

how much are toyo's ??

pirreli dragos are good tyres be it a straight away or a sharp tight bend
Dan
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:05 pm

i can get toyos for 32 a corner fitted and balenced
simonds1
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:19 pm

Sorry that I'm comin in a bit late here, but I've just noticed this is in the pics/vids section.........why?!

I don't see no pics or vids!
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