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 PAS Help Please
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Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:20 am

Right, for those that don't know I had a new pump fitted last year. After a couple of trackdays it was moaning like a bitch and there was no assistance for a short while on cold startup. So new pump fitted and all was well until I tried to drain some surplus out the reservoir and then it got noisy again. So I recently had it drawined and refilled.

Did Elvington on saturday though and it spat loads of fluid out. All up the inside of the bonnet and down the front wing.

Not fussed about that even though the engine bay is now gunked up, but it's started groaning like made from cold again. WTF is going on? Why does it keep doing this after trackdays?

Thought it was going to grind to a messy halt the other morning, but it was relatively quiet again by the time I got to the lights at the entrance to our estate.

Doing Ty Croes next monday so could do with sorting it really. I just want to know why it keeps doing it. Is the fluid getting too hot?
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:08 am

coudl be getting to hot, if theres air in it then the air bubbles will grow and make it spit it out when its being used hard.

i can;t even remember if the clios have the oikl cooler for the power steering fitted or not.
Dan
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:14 am

nope they dont.
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:20 am

well thats how gay clios are

get one.
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:27 am

Laughing
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:12 am

What's this oil cooler you speaketh of? Sounds like exactly what I need.

I assume it was on the 19s?
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:25 am

yup it was Razz
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:32 am

Top stuff. I'm off for a look on dialogys.

The PAS is the bane of my life at the mo.
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:34 am

its a U shaped pipe that bolts onto the front cross member
bbracer16valver
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:35 am

Swervin_Mervin";p="92881 wrote:
Top stuff. I'm off for a look on dialogys.


im might actually go and buy it off ebay
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:36 am

you can see it in this pic

[img:567:378:e8707a4501]http://www.renault-turbo.com/chris/scrappy%20engine%20out%2002.jpg[/img:e8707a4501]

the u shaped tuboe
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:08 am

So it's just like a very small rad then? How do you reckon I'd plumb it in?
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:21 am

on the 19 the oil passes through it on its return to the bottle.
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:24 am

So it'd just be a question of finding some flexi piping to plumb it in from the rack then to the bottle? Presumably making sure the bottle remains the highest point in the system.
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:35 am

yeah. the bottle is the highest point anywya so just splice into the feed pipe
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:42 am

I'm thinking rip off the rack>reservoir pipe then plumb it all from there.

Going to have a squiz round the engine bay etc tonight to see about routing for it.

What sort of hose is used on the PAS system?
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:16 pm

Right, I've had a look. I reckon it'll squeeze in behind the front bumper in front of the rad. Routing the pipes would be the issue. I think, from what little I could see, that the return pipe had a connection just below the brake master cylinder area. If so i'd whip that off there, and route a new length to the cooler somehow.

Then there's just the matter of figuring out how to route it back to the reservoir avoiding the hot bits.
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:18 pm

the piping is braided meaty stuff. the cooler isn't on the pressure side though.

wrap the lines in tinfoil, crude but effective.
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:31 pm

All my piping seems to just be thick rubber.
Chris H
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:46 pm

cut it if you don't believe me
Swervin_Mervin
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:50 pm

Does it have a sort of rubber, braid, then rubber construction?

I bought some hosing like that once for something. Is it fuel hosing or something. About 4-5years ago when I bought it.
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