Castor.. Adjustable?

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

Is there any way to adjust a castor on an MK1 clio? Was going to adjust the camber but been told this would be better. I've never heard of a kit though so is it safe to assume it doesn't exist?

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nope, you can't do it.

You can do it on a 19, but only by a very small amount. The strut top mounts have 2 possible positions to bolt to, one for power steering, and the other further forward (iirc) for manual steering. The manual steering position makes it easier to steer obviously.

I cant remember the setup on the clio, might be a similar sort of thing.

Site Subscriber Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 3547

the clio justc has the strut go through the turret.

Site Subscriber Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 1575

ecsentric top mounts from tas available through Demon tweeks

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

can you link me to this David, can't find it, dure it's a kit for the clio?

Site Subscriber Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 1575

I think its in the demon tweeks book not on the website. but try looking from TAS I'm sure they have a website, I just don't know what it is sorry

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

why the hell would any muppet recommend altering the castor opposed to the camber?

Whoever this person is slap them fucking hard.

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

he said it would increase straightline stability as the tyres would be flatter on the road but also have the camber for the corners.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

hes a fucking idiot then.

yes it will be more stable only because if you increase castor the tyre rocks on its self not pivot.

We really need a good war or mass genocide, we really do.

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AmDaMan";p="97600 wrote:

tyres would be flatter on the road

wow.

Maybe let the tyres down, you'd have a very flat tyre on the road then!

Site Subscriber Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 1575

if you want straight line stability toe out is what you want! but why would you want to change from standard settings? is it because you have a special suspension? as far as I know, no cars have the driving wheel tyres flat on the road in other words all cars have a certain amount of -ve or +ve camber this is to help cornering. there is a very long and boring formula I'm sure somebody could post it but suffice to say if your car is standard then go to a good tracking center and get it set up to factory spec and make sure your tyre pressures are correct.. Very Happy

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toe out on the front on a fwd car will make it twitchier, making the turn in seem immediate.

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from my experiance Chris toe out makes it stable and harder to turn in (this is what I have on the 5)which is great on long straights toe in makes it unstable and twichy on a fwd (which is great for hillclimbs). but the point being made is why change from standard settings if your car is standard?

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stock is 1 degree toe out which makes them twitchy.

Toe in leaves it feeling dead

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ah well thats what the 5 has, but then maybe different wheel bases give different results to the same toe.

Level 5 User Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 122

Camber it is then :p Hey Chris roughly what would the camber be on a clio with Decarbon shocks, PI -35mm and 17" (215) wheels? Or would there be no way of telling without a camber guage?

Also what would it be best to have it set at? I would like less tyre wear but not unresponsive steering.. or is that too much to ask?

Edit: Also does a lowered car's castor change as well as camber? If so would adjusting the camber alone be ok or would the castor need to be done too if you want to maintain handling or is it not worth bothering about?

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no way of telling with out a guage. best have it set up as stock 1.0deg negative.