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andy-16v
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Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:36 pm |
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My baby asked me yesterday "Daddy why are we so slow?"
I replied " your not that slow ,with 137 bhp u still upset alot of people,te he!"
"but i need more,i want to go faster,please,please,please Daddy i want to go faster"
"I havent got much money though,mabey just enough for some optimax,.....will that do?".
"NO I WANT PROPER POWER"
Come on people please help ,with all your BHP tips
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Chet T16
Retroholic
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 5685
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:30 am |
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De-cat is always the best first step |
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Chris H
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:58 am |
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then sell it and get a proper car. |
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andy-16v
Level 5 User
Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:54 am |
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come on Criss ,im sure u could be more helpfull than a fart in a spacesuit.
I dont want another car just yet ,i want to enjoy my valver.
finding this site has been inspirational,with a little help from u guys i can pluck up the courage and do the work myself.
Anybody can buy a so called "MAXED MOTOR" but I want to build 1,its somthing i've always wanted to do,and i'll be fucked if i let some tosspot garage rip me off like they did with my 1st valver[thats another story] ...so come on guys give me some help there's a lot of talented people on this site,and from what i 've read Criss u're 1 of them
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JB
Mr Quoter-vator
Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:04 pm |
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how money do you want to spend?
decat is defo cheapest/easiest job for £/bhp,
cud do somethign to the induction altho the std box is good...maybe a replacement filter as ppl always bang on about....i have gone for a piperX induction kit which i have kinda shrouded from the engine by enclosing it in aircon ducting...not just a cold feed(which i think do bugger all) its completely covering...so in fact its just like a ....oh.....STD AIRBOX!!! this cost me 80 odd quid! but u can prolly find cheaper ones on ebay
if u wanna spend a bit more...get soem cams...can get regrinds for 160 quid....this is not toooo expensive and makes a nice difference...not huge, but noticable coupled up with the decat and ik..
more money?....get the head off...squeeze some larger valves in there, i believe someone has squeezed 34mm inlets in there, std size is 30mm on the 1.8...then while your at it could get the ports seen to. again its all down to how much money u want to throw at it.
more money??....throttle bodies...costs loads but sounds awesome but good gains coupled with all the above and maybe now would be a good timew to get a proper striaght thru exhaust.
or of course the ultimate has got to be forced induction....turbo or supercharger.
after all this you could get it chipped to maske the most of the mods (TBs need new management anyway)
or......initrous oxide. this, if setup correctly, can be the best £/bhp mod ever! esp if u do it DIY as opposed to payin for a full kit. check out www.nitrous.info very good site, as pointed out by chet in techy 'nitrous FAQ'
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andy-16v
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Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:43 pm |
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Nice one Jon! and cheers again for sorting my starting prob.
Ive got the K&Ni already,thinking of taking the head off of my old ph1 [chance to paint rocker cover] never done it before but it seems straightfoward ,how much can i do to the head? or shall i just send it away 4 gas flow,polish,mabee a skim to up the compresion?.....bigger valves u say......now that sounds cool  , can they change angle's aswell?
throttle bods......no.Turbo......no supercharge now that does sound sexey i had one of those on my old 67 camero  who would i see about that? i dont think i'll be able to do 11's on the 1/4 though that took 480bhp to do that,and i was on street tyres  oh to be young again any ways thanks for the imput and if anybody has any CHEAP bits that i may be tempted with PLEASE let me know....................CHEERS |
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JB
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:31 pm |
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the man to speak to is chris h on headwork...or benr who is online at the mo i see..... |
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JB
Mr Quoter-vator
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:33 pm |
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67 camero...now that sounds nice!!! got any pics? |
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andy-16v
Level 5 User
Joined: 06 Oct 2004
Posts: 119
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:28 pm |
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 Sorry matey only fond memories  and a wicked time we had together ha ha ha Lets just say...........the boys in their lovley new cossey 500's went home really PISSED OFF after a blap along the seafront with me i must admit that WAS fun,it was quick in a straight line ,but a bit scary on the twisty bits. We finally parted one summers day doing about 115 at Long Marsden Raceway , under full acceleration ..up into third........BANG!!!!!!! oil pump seised............................... bummer !!!!!!!!!!!!!. |
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JB
Mr Quoter-vator
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:44 pm |
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oh shit...what a way to go....must have been gutted |
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huwwatkins
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Joined: 10 Jun 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:28 pm |
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Might as well go out in style |
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andy-16v
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:53 pm |
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Not only did i cry,shit my pants...... i also pulled a peice of piston sleaving out off the cross-member.........................a very sad day |
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Chet T16
Retroholic
Joined: 12 Feb 2004
Posts: 5685
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:03 pm |
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What JB said is all good. Mines a turbo valver as you may know. Puttin out around 175bhp at the minute but set to rise! |
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Chet T16
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Joined: 12 Feb 2004
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Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:05 pm |
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Hit the button before i was finished there...
Any sort of forced induction is gonna be a waste of money so forget that.
Set of cams and some nice headork at it'd make a good difference |
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Chris H
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Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:28 am |
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yeah JB's list is quite good.
If you want a decent road engine then a shift to 2litres is prob the better bet.
If you want all out revability then the 1.8 is where to go but it won't drive nice.
I miss large capacity yank tanks. Stuck a ford racing 460 motor into a 69 stang for a boy. That fair shifted.
I love the laziness of them. |
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stan
Gay Rights Activist
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Posts: 1268
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Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:51 am |
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chet hows urs running? do u still have a problem with det?? r u running any sort of charge cooling? |
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andy-16v
Level 5 User
Joined: 06 Oct 2004
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Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:57 am |
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Well thanks chaps for the imput,i think i know where im going now.
For the short term it will b ....D-cat.... mag leads...ngk plugs ... FSE ...and mabey advance the timing,feed back on the later would be welcome.
Then i'll whip the head off the ph1 get it skimmed..polished and ported,then get some cams....what ones im not sure yet,i dont want them to larey,but a tad more guts from 2000 up to the limiter would be nice.
When i come to the cams,should i change the followers and guides?
vernier pullys...then get it mapped out ..............would u say thats the best way to go, and have i missed somthing?
Still think Supercharging would be nice,even just for the Wrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!
SEXEY |
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Chris H
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Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:59 am |
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leave the FSE
Cams to increase the pull from 2 grand, doesn't work like that unless you time them in yourself.
As for the head, if your getting a proper job done then 3 angle valve seats, new guides and maybe even new valves.
i'd retain but clean the existing followers.
Decat is the best 1st mod really. |
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andy-16v
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Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:40 pm |
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Thanks Criss, i'll spend the saving of the FSE on some nice new front disc's and pads.
Would i have to use higher octaine fuel if i advance the timing [98] to compensate for when the cpu wants to run lean? or won't it matter?
Also ..sorry bout the spaceman thing ....had a shit day......Have u heard the one about 2 cows in a field ?....................1st cow go's Mmooooooo!
The second go's......"I was gonna say that !."
SORRY!!!!!!!! te he |
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Chris H
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Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:46 pm |
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why do you want to advance the timing?
Are you going to waste perfectly good money on a new sensor?
Don't bother.
the only time to advance the timing is when the cars being mapped.
Otherwise the extra timing you put in will just be pulled back by the ECU anyway.
Just use normal unleaded. |
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andy-16v
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Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:07 pm |
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I think matey that im trying to run before i can walk,a bit of overload on the o'l grey matter
one step at a time, i'll learn as i go along
With a bit of help [fingers crossed]
Thinking of taking head off this weekend if weathers good,ive got the trusty Haynes still bit nervey thou.... 
Got spare £300 this week ..........now where's those goodies? |
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