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munch
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:44 am |
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Hi peeps i am planning a engine swap for my R5, and need some advice from you. I have sorced a low millage volvo 480 turbo engine (1.7) and box complete with all the ancillaries, and was wondering if my existing wiring loom can be used with this engine also will my drive shafts and gearbox be ok with this. I know that volvo use the same 1.7 engine as renault but was just wondering if the parts named above are compatable and do you think it will drop straight into my 5's engine bay.
I have a 1.7gtx R5 so will be using the shafts and wiring loom from this.
Thought it would be a good project to do and something a little different as i have a 5 door car and want to turn it into something a little more fun to drive. |
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hooverphonique
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:24 am |
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loom will prolly not work, since the management, etc, on the volvo is totally different from the renault one.. |
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david3533
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:43 am |
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right does the new engine use efi ie does it have a ECU?
pretty sure you will be able to use the existing engine mounts. the loom will swap over as if there's no ECU you shoud be able to use the existing loom from the 5 (chris think this is right) not sure if the ignition control unit is the same if it is use the renault 1. |
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Chris H
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:37 pm |
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the 480 engine is efi and runs maf.
You need the full loom and ECU etc for it.
You will also need to change the fuel lines and fuel pump to deliver the goods. The will be wiring and plumbing but its not impossible. |
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david3533
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:04 pm |
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the biggest problem will be getting the engine to physically fit with all the extra pipe work. the loom shouldn't be a problem as electrically you are doing a simillar job to what i've done and. just don't expect to do it in a weekend.the drive shafts from the 5 will be man enough (pretty sure their the same as the gtt)
will the gtx box fit the volvo lump? should do if it mounts straight on use the gtx box as you won't need to change speedo's or cabels. does the turbo use a intercooler? if it does you might want to think about a gtt rad as this is narrower than the gtx rad. |
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Chris H
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:39 pm |
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it will need a new throttle cable and yes it runs a cooler.
its been done befor eso it does go. And yep the box fits. Its the saem engine as is in there but with a turbo on it basically. |
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hooverphonique
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:19 am |
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and also, afaik, the ignition coil, etc, are not the same, so you will need the ignition system from the volvo as well... |
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munch
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:28 am |
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Cool seems pretty good to me as i plan to get another car for normal every day use and have the 5 as a project / weekend car. I can get all the bits i need from the volvo as its a complete car. Im not to bad with all the electrical stuff. My only concern is will it fit without farting around to much as i was hoping that it would drop straight in after changing the things you have already mentioned.
Also after speaking to tominbristol last night he informed me that the R19 16v engine is capable of about 130bhp which is more than the 1.7 volvo turbo conversion, can anyone give me any advice on this swap, along with parts needed, will the engine drop in ok, as it looks massive compared to my engine and i dont want to start chopping away at anything to make it fit.
Sorry about all the Q's but i just want a bit more power and to weigh up my options before jumping in head first.
Thanks
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david3533
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:17 am |
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if you want to know about the 16v swap look in the knowledge base. there is a very good article by me,  even if i do say so myself, read this and if you have any questions feel free to ask.
you could always buy a converted 1 cough cough cough hmmm  |
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munch
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:25 am |
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David just pm'd you about this will check out the knowledge section now. i would love to buy yours but i would like to try and do one myself and annoy you for advice instead. :lol: |
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david3533
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Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:08 pm |
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no probs matey any questions post them on here its only so that if anybody else wants to trry this conversion then the info is on here already |
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