Project Phoenix!

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

Well, being a 19 year old twat I managed to write off a near mint 71k r19 ph2 exec by understeering into a bumpy common and twisting the chassis (pictures to follow). But, being dumb young and full of cum I'm not going to give up so easily and today bought my second valver, a 1993 clio 16v (pictures and progress to follow!). I'm planning on salvaging my 71k engine and gearbox (the rad has been pushed back a bit but otherwise seems spot on, running sweetly) and drop it in the 131,000 clio.

This is the clio; http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&item=250014647202&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I paid Â£400 (originally 500) but as I was driving off the rear gearbox mount collapsed leaving me unable to select a gear! What followed was an elephant.co.uk sponsored recovery van (thank fuck they slyed the 'extras' package on -bet they regret it now, Â£500 worth of recovery Smile

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As detailed on ebay, the clutch ratchet needs doing (and is what caused the mount breakage) and obviously a new rear mount too..

(how do i upload images to the forum?)

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

Jobs for the clio;

-New rear gearbox mount
[align=left:cb45d09bfa](or use the one off the 19.. is that possible?)[/align:cb45d09bfa]
-Replace clutch pedal assembly to fix ratchet problem
[align=left:cb45d09bfa](Can I use the assembly from the 19?)[/align:cb45d09bfa]
-Replace megane 16's [with fuked tyres] with standard wheels (and later 17's from the r19)

-Get working heater/fan dash controls from scrapper
[align=left:cb45d09bfa](are they the same on valvers as on normal clios?)[/align:cb45d09bfa]
-Fix rev counter (hopefully will be a sticking dial or loose conn.)

-Clean off loose paint and surface rust and respray

-[Eventually, or if gearbox is fucked] Put r19 engine and gearbox in clio

-Get non-broken front and rear black bumpers from scrapper
[align=left:cb45d09bfa](Are 16v bumpers the same as non 16v bumpers?)[/align:cb45d09bfa]

-Replace stupid rudeboy chav round silver gear knob with original gearknob from fuked 19

Wow. Am knackered just listing it Razz

If anyone can help me with find the parts, especially the bumpers and heater controls, it would be much appreciated! Ta

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

mounts are all different

yes but the pedals wrong and it will be high

what a totally pointless thing to do

yes

the infamous shitty clioness

same as a above, it will need welded by the ebay pics, don't be surprised if most of the sill is gone as well

not advisable unless it has the clio casing which only some have

no

Is the heater controls not the same as the ph2 19's? black and white?

Level 3 User Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 68

would someone really sell there car to take the missus on holiday!?

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

no but they would cos it will never pass an mot cos the sills are fooked.

Site Subscriber Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 2929

FPMSL!!

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

Chris H";p="103424 wrote:

no but they would cos it will never pass an mot cos the sills are fooked.

Not so sure about that, the rust around the arches only seems like surface rust from a quick inspection, and it got through its last mot with no advisory notes (where as the r19 before had about 9).
But i guess its hard to tell without cleaning them out properly

Chris H";p="103424 wrote:

what a totally pointless thing to do

Which bit were u referring to here?
Were you talking about putting 17's on the clio? The reason I want to do that, but not straight away, I 'cause about 2 weeks before the crash I spent Â£270 on 4 brand new tyres inc.fitting and 3 of which are alright and 1 of which I'll need to get replaced and the alloy checked.
The tyres on the standard 19 and clio 15's are ok, well better than the 2 front slicks on his megane 16's.

Hmm shame about clutch pedal and rear gearbox mount, can anyone get me part numbers and est. prices please? Ta. Looks like a trip to local renault dealer. I heard that the mounts from Eurocapparts and GSF aren't up to much.

Forum Moderator Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 19978

clios always look better than they are on the back arches, get in thee and poke about, chances are half the sills and so on will fall away.

Yeah the 17's are terrible, especially on a clio. You lose steering lock and the rides utter crap.

Sell the wheels.

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

heres a bit of history of project phoenix;

After much time, love and money spent, the r19 16v ph2 in all its glory;
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Slightly Later...;
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The wheels got moved so far back the front left tyre wouldnt turn round unless flat
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On the trailer with the engine running. Drove the car onto the trailer on flats -suprisingly, it slipped off. [should have got a photo really Smile

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My mate taking a photo of the crease in the roof above the driver door

RIP M660 PXX

Level 9 User Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Posts: 453

looks well that mate eventhough i like them standard.

was that up on ebay a while back?

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

What were your wheels and tyres like on the 19? thinking about going to 17s myself but i might lower mine slightly as an alternative

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

I never tried to sell it
Bought it from ebay (well in person) in dec last year

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

No scrubbage and could go full lock, ride was stiff but was dropped 40mm on the front on progessively wound springs (i.e. stiff as fuck) so with the low profiles it shook ur teeth.
Lowered it on the tortion bar bout 40mm too.

Gd shit really, but I get the impression that I *may* have had a diff outcome if it was standard wheels and ride height.
Just a thought, but half heartedly messing with suspension geometry is dangerous. If you have to lower it for performance, do it properly Razz

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

Update on the CLIO:
Took off the bumper and inspected the rear arches;

Left one has been repaired before -i ended up pulling out a lump of filler
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My plan is to kurust the hell out of it as far back as i can reach, then use waxoyl with a straw between the front and rear metals to add some addition barrier, then fill it as they did previously. Its not a permanent fix but I dont think its going to be on the road for much more than a year.

The right one is just how i was hoping it would be, solid and an easy fix.
[img:640:480:7338d5ec6f]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/7953/ere1020rc6.jpg[/img:7338d5ec6f]

Also glad to find minimal corrosion leading onto the sills, pics to follow

Still needing these parts;
Door rubber;
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Boot Trim;
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Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

-Oh and tominbristol those alloys will be up for sale after they have been checked and a new tyre has been put on them. The tyres + fitting was Â£290 alone when I paid for them a few weeks again.. reasonable offers will be considered (ill leave it here for a bit before sticking on the sell section give u eager project readers a chance Smile

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Side note, I am currently in the process of making the front of the spokes white(pics to follow), give it an individual look, plus I thought white rims would look trick as fuk on a black clio, but as chris said they are shite on clios...

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

-hence the sale

Level 9 User Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 412

Oooh tempting! tax or alloys, tax or alloys.... Very Happy

Not sure about 17s just yet, but i'm interested to see what you're doing to the spokes!

Retroholic Joined: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 3315

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

I appreciate you holding it for me. Like I said on the phone, gotta wait til the wkend to take the engine out.

Whats the word on the cash for the seats?

Level 5 User Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 119

Ash.
SORTED.
M660 Pxx is now safely in the scrapyard in the sky (dursley).
Pics to follow... oh the savage pics...